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Hello Don, got a new tax cut? Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 29/09/2017 23:52

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3035639-Is-he-Right-Left-or-is-He-Nothing-at-All-Trump-thread-continued?pg=1

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/10/2017 21:38

Tillerson has got a Russian order of friendship from putin!

TheNorthWestPawsage · 04/10/2017 21:42

Well that sounds like quite close ties then! Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/10/2017 21:47

Eric Garland
Eric Garland @ericgarland
Facebook says 10 million people saw the Russian ads. An independent analyst says "Try more like 70 million

amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/4/russian-facebook-ads-70-million-people-may-have-se/

Facebook estimates 10 million Americans saw the advertisements Russian groups purchased to try to influence last year’s election, but analysts said that undersells the reach of the ads, which may have actually been seen by as many as 70 million.

That kind of reach is stunning given the relatively modest budget of $100,000 spent by Russian trolls linked to the ads. The Russian-linked groups spent less than $3 on about half of the ads and never spent more than $1,000 on a single ad, Facebook said in a statement.

“The impact is vastly disproportionate to the amount spent,” said Benjamin G. Edelman, who teaches the economics of online markets at Harvard Business School. “That is what makes this such a brilliant, if not terrible, tactic.”

[...]

But the posts, which dealt with hot-button issues such as immigration and gay rights, had the potential to be viewed and shared millions of times beyond the initial ad “impressions,” analysts said — likely boosting the actual viewership well beyond the 10 million estimate.

Every time a Facebook user comments on, shares or likes an ad, it can vastly multiply the number of people who see it, said Dennis Yu, founder of BlitzMetrics, an advertising agency that exclusively deals with Facebook. Mr. Yu said the 70 million number is likely more accurate because of Facebook’s algorithm that circulates ads based on user activity.

[...]

Russian trolls were able to maximize the ads’ influence by using a Facebook feature that enables advertisers to reach individuals based by demographics, race, geography, political beliefs and hobbies, experts said. The feature is so focused, advertisers can target people who have returned from a vacation in the past week.

“That’s the beauty of Facebook,” said Kip Cassino, executive vice president of research at Borrell Associates, which tracks advertising industry data. “Facebook is the antithesis of mass media because you are not getting your message out to as many people as possible, but rather those you think will react to it.”

cozietoesie · 04/10/2017 21:51

I ‘think’ that M and K are pretty clean, NorthWest. Tillerson is ......a businessman.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/10/2017 22:16

There’s a possible tropical storm that might turn into another hurricane

Sad

edition.cnn.com/2017/10/04/us/possible-tropical-storm-nate/index.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/10/2017 22:33

'Trump dossier' on Russia links now part of special counsel's probe: sources

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1C92WN

lionheart · 04/10/2017 22:47

'You could fit all the voters who cost Clinton the election in a mid-size football stadium.'

www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/hillary-clinton-margin-loss-votes

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 07:14

cozie this is pretty close to your triad musings

Tillerson, Mattis, Mnuchin forge 'suicide pact' in the event Trump wants one of them gone: Report

www.washingtonexaminer.com/tillerson-mattis-mnuchin-forge-suicide-pact-in-the-event-trump-wants-one-of-them-gone-report/article/2636550

Which reports on this article:

www.buzzfeed.com/johnhudson/tillerson?utm_term=.bmLwGy3x1#.un0kvdZGx

One US official expressed confidence in Tillerson's status due to a so-called "suicide pact" forged between Defense Secretary James Mattis, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, and Tillerson, whereby all three cabinet secretaries vow to leave in the event that the president makes moves against one of them.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 07:20

Sally Yates, Preet Bharara Stress High Bar for Criminal Charges in Russia Probe

Prosecutors fired by Trump say Special Counsel Robert Mueller has challenging task and may not bring charges

www.wsj.com/amp/articles/sally-yates-preet-bharara-stress-high-bar-for-criminal-charges-in-russia-probe-1507158408

[...]But the fact of the matter is, he’s going to determine whether there’s proof beyond a reasonable doubt that felonies were committed, that crimes were committed that can be used for prosecution or impeachment,“ she said of Mr. Mueller. That, she suggested, is but one standard by which to judge the president’s conduct, drawing a distinction between criminal behavior and otherwise objectionable conduct. Mr. Mueller “is not going to answer the question of whether anything bad happened here,” she said.

Mr. Mueller is examining U.S. intelligence agencies’ findings of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and whether Trump associates colluded in that effort. Mr. Trump has called the probe a “witch hunt” and has said his campaign didn’t collude with Russia. Moscow has denied meddling in the election.

Mr. Bharara, too, addressed the prospect of Mr. Mueller determining against bringing a case.

“He may not decide that there is an offense to be charged or referred to the House of Representatives for impeachment. And I’ll respect that. And I think people who are on one side of the fence should respect that also,” Mr. Bharara said.

“I hope that we want still in America people to be putting together a team…whose goal only is to find out the truth and apply the law and facts fairly,” he said. “And sometimes that means bringing a case, and I’ve gotten criticized for cases I’ve brought, and sometimes it means don’t bring a case, and I’ve gotten more criticism for that. You want people to be thoughtful about what the law allows and doesn’t, and not be intimidated in either direction.”

Mr. Bharara was fired in March after defying a Justice Department request for the remaining U.S. attorneys appointed by former President Barack Obama to resign. On Wednesday, he and Ms. Yates both recounted the stories of their dismissals, with Ms. Yates revealing a new detail.

Though she learned of her firing through a hand-delivered letter, she said, she discovered that the administration had initially attempted another route.

“Apparently they tried to do it by email, I’m told—I found this out later—they tried to do it by email, but the email kept bouncing back,” she said.

Ms. Yates likened the method to an unceremonious end of a romantic relationship. “That’s sort of like breaking up with somebody by text or something, isn’t it?”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 07:26

Bill Browder
Bill Browder @Billbrowder
BREAKING: UNANIMOUS PASSAGE OF MAGNITSKY ACT IN CANADA!!!! 277-0

[before it was passed, Russia wasn’t very happy and made some threats

As Canada's Magnitsky bill nears final vote, Russia threatens retaliation

www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4321562 ]

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 07:28

They let CHIP lapse, make jokes about Puerto Rico affecting the budget etc but still have time/money to attempt this

House panel approves $10B for border wall

thehill.com/homenews/house/353904-house-panel-approves-10b-for-border-wall?amp

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 07:32

Ginia Bellafante
Ginia Bellafante @GiniaNYT
Michael Grimm, running for his old House seat after 7 months in prison sez he can help Trump "drain the swamp."

Bannon Backs Grimm, Ex-Congressman and Felon, in G.O.P. Challenge

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/nyregion/michael-grimm-stephen-bannon-congress.html?referer=t.co/FAD9ksWMxb?amp=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/nyregion/michael-grimm-stephen-bannon-congress.html?referer=t.co/FAD9ksWMxb?amp=1

From the start, Mr. Grimm has tried to frame his comeback bid around the idea that he would be a stronger ally to President Trump in Congress than Mr. Donovan, a former district attorney who took office in a special election after Mr. Grimm pleaded guilty to felony tax fraud. Mr. Grimm served seven months in prison.

“Our president needs help draining the swamp,” Mr. Grimm shouted at his announcement on Sunday. At another point he said, “Let’s hear it for our president, Donald J. Trump.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 07:33

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
Trump is preparing to ease some restrictions on U.S. weapons sales overseas.

t.co/gwJxZWgLKj?amp=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 07:36

“Purges” of people “not loyal enough”. Nothing to see here folks Hmm

Pence’s chief of staff floats ‘purge’ of anti-Trump Republicans to wealthy donors

Nick Ayers urges donors to ‘form a coalition’ to take on GOP leaders and members who don’t back the president.

www.politico.com/story/2017/10/03/purge-anti-trump-republicans-nick-ayers-243416

CaveMum · 05/10/2017 09:30

Totally on another planet:

Hello Don, got a new tax cut? Trump continued
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 12:20

They are just such tosspots. How on earth do people not see how corrupt they are?

In uk news, hope Theresa treasures the memories of trump holding her hand because I don’t think she’ll get much else from him

Trump opposes EU-UK WTO deal in blow to May’s Brexit plans

amp.ft.com/content/92bb5636-a95b-11e7-ab55-27219df83c97

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 12:24

Definitely different world cave

Hello Don, got a new tax cut? Trump continued
cozietoesie · 05/10/2017 13:11

Be fair, Pain. He did pick up the things and throw them himself. (He could have required someone else to do it on his behalf.) Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 05/10/2017 14:10

People and gun retailers who consider human life to have no value.

Amid Talk of Banning Bump Stocks for Guns, Retailers Are Selling Out of the Devices
www.thetrace.org/rounds/amid-talk-banning-bump-stocks-guns-retailers-selling-devices/

cozietoesie · 05/10/2017 14:48

Of course. The talk around ‘campfires’ will have been along the lines of ‘Gee - those sound neat. I could do with one or two of those.......’Sad

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 15:52

Under obama, gun sales were really high because people expected him to pass restrictive regulations and conversely, they dropped quite a bit under trump because people didn’t feel like it was under threat so I think it was inevitable (but no less frightening)

This is good news I think

Angry GOP donors close their wallets

'I’m sick and tired of nothing happening,' one contributor says of the party's legislative failures.

www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/republican-donors-trump-mcconnell-anger-243449

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 15:53

But giving with one hand and taking away with another etc

A New Pro-Trump Super PAC Takes Aim at the Republican Establishment

Leading figures from the right-wing alternative media are launching a political group to support candidates in contested primaries.

www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/541686/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 15:57

Unfortunately, it’s not true that nothing’s happening. If only that were the case

Jeff Sessions Just Reversed A Policy That Protects Transgender Workers From Discrimination

The Justice Department under Obama decreed that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 banned transgender discrimination in the workplace. But in a new memo, the attorney general rescinded the policy.

www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/dominicholden/jeff-sessions-just-reversed-a-policy-that-protects

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 05/10/2017 16:03

Grin cozie I missed your post from before!

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