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Hello Don, got a new tax cut? Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 29/09/2017 23:52

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 07:19

I don’t think this was posted on previous threads but it’s been pretty well shared on twitter (if you haven’t seen it, it’s worth a watch)

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"If you can't treat someone with dignity and respect--then you need to get out."-Lt. Gen. Jay B. Silveria, Superintendent @AF_Academy

mobile.twitter.com/usairforce/status/913541082637578240/video/1

Unfortunately, it looks like there might have been some backlash Sad

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 08:12

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
Fox News: Mueller's investigators have begun questioning W.H. staffers, NSC CoS Keith Kellogg was interviewed Thurs.

Sources said that retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg, the chief of staff for the National Security Council, was interviewed on Thursday. Questioning covered former national security adviser Mike Flynn, who resigned in February and who helped bring Kellogg onto the Trump transition team.

One source said Kellogg was shown records related to the investigation of Flynn.

In a separate development, Fox News has learned that congressional investigators as well as federal agents are scrutinizing a Trump campaign national security meeting in March 2016 at Washington, D.C.'s Old Post Office, now the site of the Trump International Hotel.

Two sources close to the issue said investigators are determining who attended, what was discussed and how then-candidate Donald Trump responded to an idea broached at the meeting by a junior staffer of setting up a session with senior Russian government officials to discuss repairing the U.S.-Russia relationship.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 08:17

Kenneth P. Vogel
Kenneth P. Vogel @kenvogel
Mueller, closing in on Flynn, subpoenas Turkish businessman to ask about FARA compliance issues. @iarnsdorf scoop:

Robert Mueller Subpoenas an Associate of the Man Who Hired Michael Flynn as a Lobbyist

The special counsel wanted to question a Turkish businessman with interests in Turkey, Russia and the U.S. — and ties to people with criminal records.

www.propublica.org/article/robert-mueller-subpoenas-associate-man-hired-michael-flynn-lobbyist

[a very brief extract- it’s a pretty long piece]

The special prosecutor investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election has subpoenaed an associate of Gen. Michael Flynn’s Turkish lobbying client. The subpoena, a copy of which was obtained by ProPublica, ordered Sezgin Baran Korkmaz to testify before a grand jury in Washington on Sept. 22.

“The grand jury is conducting an investigation of possible violations of federal criminal laws involving the Foreign Agents Registration Act, among other offenses,” a letter accompanying the subpoena stated. The letter is signed by Robert Mueller and Zainab Ahmad, a senior assistant special counsel who specializes in prosecuting terrorism. Korkmaz did not respond to requests for comment.

catgirl1976 · 30/09/2017 08:22

Place marking for bigly tax cuts. Not that they're any good to me. All my money comes from the Russians.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 08:24

Renato Mariotti
Renato Mariotti @renato_mariotti
THREAD: Why is White House Counsel Don McGahn concerned about meetings between President Trump and Jared Kushner?

1/ Today @WSJ reported that WH officials were worried WH Counsel McGahn would resign over Trump-Kushner meetings.

www.wsj.com/amp/articles/white-house-counsel-weighed-quitting-over-donald-trump-jared-kushner-meetings-1506727150

2/ McGahn was concerned because Mueller could construe those meetings as witnesses coordinating their stories

Mr. McGahn expressed concern that meetings between Mr. Kushner and Mr. Trump could be construed by investigators as an effort to coordinate their stories, three people familiar the matter said.

3/ Ultimately Priebus and Bannon urged McGahn not to resign, and Cobb was hired to manage the response to Mueller's investigation.

Two senior White House officials—then-Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and former chief strategist Steve Bannon —urged Mr. McGahn not to resign, according to people familiar with the conversations. One person characterized Mr. McGahn’s frustration as, “Fine, you’re not taking my advice? Why stay?”

Mr. McGahn stayed in the job, reassured in part by the White House’s hiring of a legal team specifically to manage the response to the probe of Russian meddling in the 2016 election. Attorney Ty Cobb was hired to lead that group.

4/ Why was McGahn concerned? Kushner and Trump are both witnesses to his statements and thought process regarding the firing of Comey.
5/ All of their statements to each other would be fair game for Mueller to ask about. If they met frequently, Mueller could ask questions
6/ about those conversations and potentially discover things he wouldn't otherwise know about or find inconsistencies in their accounts
7/ McGahn is doing what any good defense attorney would do in these situations--create a protocol to ensure there is a "prover" in the room
8/ for these conversations so that the third person could verify that issues relating to the investigation were never discussed.
9/ The fact that McGahn's advice was unheeded for so long is another sign of dysfunction by the Trump team. /end

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 08:27

Kelly struggling to make sense of Kushner's West Wing role

Trump has also questioned whether having his family members in the West Wing is creating too much noise.

www.politico.com/story/2017/09/29/jared-ivanka-trump-white-house-role-john-kelly-243321

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 08:30

NSA warned White House against using personal email

In briefings to incoming Trump aides, security officials highlighted the dangers of unsecured email and phones.

www.politico.com/story/2017/09/29/white-house-private-email-nsa-warning-243324

The officials said White House aides also were told they should assume that foreign cyberspies had already penetrated their personal email systems to some degree and used that access to vacuum up everything not just on their own computers and phones but those of their contacts.

The NSA briefers told the Trump aides that using their personal devices for work, including passing files and emails from one system to the other, could give cyberspies access to their work computers and email, too, the officials said.

If Kushner did not adhere to the security precautions, it could lead to a significant security breach, the officials said, given his access to President Donald Trump and unique portfolio of responsibilities. Kushner, who is Trump’s son-in-law, is the president’s point man on China, Syria, Middle East peace, and Afghanistan, along with innovation, infrastructure and other issues.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 08:33

Kyle Griffin
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
WSJ: Google conducting an internal probe on whether Russian-linked entities used ads, services to manipulate voters.

t.co/J8wlEPBs6l?amp=1

Lweji · 30/09/2017 08:33

NSA warned White House against using personal email

FFS, Trump wanted to lock Hillary down because of emails.
They couldn't be that stupid, could they?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 08:36

Olga_Lautman NYC ✨
Olga_Lautman NYC ✨ @olgaNYC1211
Remember when I was worried about 🇷🇺Zapad war games as a means of a future invasion. Looks like 🇷🇺forgot some troops

Russia left troops in Belarus after wargames: Ukraine

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1C4234

(Reuters) - Russia has left troops behind after staging war games in Belarus despite promising not to, Ukraine's Commander in Chief Viktor Muzhenko told Reuters.

In an interview on a military plane on Thursday evening, Muzhenko said Russia has withdrawn only a few units from Belarus and had lied about how many of its soldiers were there in the first place.

His comments could increase tension between the two neighbors and contradict the Belarussian defense ministry spokesman, who said the last train of Russian troops and equipment had left Belarus on Thursday. Russia's defense ministry did not respond to an immediate request for comment.

[...]

But Muzhenko said the wargames were of an offensive nature. Ukraine staged its own drills in northern Ukraine in response to Zapad and built up troops there.

"I wouldn't say that the tension has lessened. We can say tension is building up or rising," he said.

"We had information that they had withdrawn only a few units of the declared 12,500 troops, of which 3,000 were Russians, but there were significantly more of them there."

Muzhenko said the Russians had withdrawn air units from Belarus to make a show of leaving.

"Russia demonstrated, and it was primarily a demonstration, the return of aviation units -- they took off from the airfields and flew to airfields in Russia. But we understand that 300-400 km for aviation is a distance that can be overcome in a very short time," he said.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 30/09/2017 08:37

lweji sadly the game of “stupid or nefarious” continues. This is just another episode

TheClaws · 30/09/2017 08:41

Trump’s golf, in perspective.

Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur 1h1 hour ago
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Per (trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings ), Trump's golf outings alone have cost taxpayers $180 million so far–that's 450 years of POTUS salary.

So far.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 30/09/2017 09:17

Thanks for the new thread Perking
Just transferred all your names to my private email account. Don't worry - it's completely unhackable.

lionheart · 30/09/2017 09:47

Yes, Lweji. Always and exceedingly.

I hope Mueller has a lot of questions to ask McGahn about Flynn.

orlantina · 30/09/2017 09:48

Can you just imagine the outcry if the Government demanded the details of Facebook users who criticised them? Even the Daily Mail would have an issue with that.

Lweji · 30/09/2017 10:14

The US won't have a single citizen ID, which would solve many issues, including with voter fraud.
This surveillance of government critics reminds me of Portugal during the dictatorship. Sad It's not looking good.

lionheart · 30/09/2017 10:21

Even the Daily Mail would have an issue with that.

Such an indictment of the Trumpers. Smile

PlectrumElectrum · 30/09/2017 11:43

Bigly place mark.Smile

Stuffofawesome · 30/09/2017 12:05

I'm not listening until you've paid your debts

badbadhusky · 30/09/2017 12:21

Placemarking for later.

cozietoesie · 30/09/2017 12:27

Welcome to the thread, Maryz.

Good to have you here. Smile

lettuceWrap · 30/09/2017 12:28

Thanks for the new thread Smile

Trump is off golfing AGAIN? He has no shame.

lionheart · 30/09/2017 12:46

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The Mayor of San Juan, who was very complimentary only a few days ago, has now been told by the Democrats that you must be nasty to Trump.

The military and first responders, despite no electric, roads, phones etc., have done an amazing job. Puerto Rico was totally destroyed.

...Such poor leadership ability by the Mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help. They....

...want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort. 10,000 Federal workers now on Island doing a fantastic job.

orlantina · 30/09/2017 13:04

Such poor leadership ability by the Mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help

Fuck me, Zero empathy.