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I have a cheeky fucker on my hands, don't I?

147 replies

JustHereForThePooStories · 27/09/2017 23:59

I work in a field that touches a lot of peoples' lives (not in the emotional sense; the work I do relates to activities a lot of people need). I'm in a senior, specialist role, and also have additional legal qualifications relating to the area.
I'm not self-employed. I work for a company so am paid to focus on these activities for my employer. They also pay for further education and support CPD in my field.

At least once a month, I have someone contact me asking for my advice on a personal capacity.

In the past, I have helped but have found that many people-
A) Don't appreciate it and expect you to be at their beck and call once you engage
B) Don't give you the full story so the advice I give is moot/unsuitable
C) Make a point of not taking the advice when it doesn't suit them, almost to the point where they argue with me about doing the opposite of what I recommend

This week, a distant family member who I haven't seen in ages sent me an email saying that his friend from work is looking for advice and he will call me tomorrow to talk me through it.

I replied to say "Hi X. Good to hear from you. I'm on holiday at the moment so not available for phone calls, I'm afraid. I don't like advising people I don't know on such matters as it's difficult to get the full picture and I'm not comfortable with it. I'd suggest your friend contacts for assistance with her issue.
Hope all is well with .
Hope to see you before the year is out.
Poo"

He replied, CCing his friend saying-
"Hi Poo.

I have CCed in . , can you please email Poo directly with the "full story" so she can see what she can do to help before you go to the trouble of contacting ?"

I've replied to both to say I'm not contactable as I'm on holiday, will not be checking emails after today, and am unavailable to assist, as mentioned in first email. I've also emailed relative directly on the back of that to say if appreciate it if he didn't share my personal contact information with strangers.

This is just beyond bloody cheek, isn't it?

OP posts:
Jux · 29/09/2017 10:23

I would send both of them your rates for professional advice and add 'by appointment only'. If the advisee actually ploughs ahead after that, then simply have a full diary for about a year.

Gottalovesummer · 29/09/2017 10:29

Oh goodness, this brings back memories. I used to work in the legal profession and would regularly get emails from distant cousins whose friend/neighbour needed help with a contract/dispute /other legal matter

I never gave advice! Why would I to someone I'd never met, would never get the full story from, and in all probability would never pay thank you!

Some members of my family thought I was being unreasonable so I told them to sort out the problems instead Grin

Gottalovesummer · 29/09/2017 10:29

*never say thank you. They wouldn't have paid either!

Dizzybintess · 29/09/2017 10:37

My hubby always gets the same he is an architectural technician working on multimillion pound projects and he gets people asking if he can sketch up a porch or design them an extension all the time! He has become better at telling people to go and do one!

ALittleMop · 29/09/2017 10:39

I would say one of 2 things, bluntly

Either

I'm in breach of my contract of employment to give advice even informally

OR

My day rate for informal consultancy/advice is £450 (or whatever) per day payable in advance.

ginplease8383 · 29/09/2017 10:54

Are you in HR by chance?

I am too and one particular very jumped up and unreasonable friend contacts me all the time! Annoying!

ArcheryAnnie · 29/09/2017 10:58

I take my hat off at your decisive action, OP!

ememem84 · 29/09/2017 11:20

I feel your pain. I'm qualified as a lawyer but non practising. I've been asked so many times to look at xyz and advise on this that and the other.

For me, it really depends on who is asking. E.g. A couple of years ago my dgdad died and dm was appointed as co-executor of his will with my uncle and dgma. There was a lot of share transfer stuff needed account transfer stuff etc. That's par for the course with my new job. So I helped them out.

My sister recently was asked by her work to sign a contract for xyz and asked me to take a look and let her know if there was anything odd or anything she should question. Fine to do this. Because she wasn't expecting me to actually argue/act for her.

Other people are not to understanding. They pop in and ask for advice. I've had to make things very clear that I'm non practising. But can recommend someone they could work with. If they insist I do it, I tell them my charge out rate is £500 an hour and ask where I should send the bill..... funnily no ones taken me up on it...

JustHereForThePooStories · 29/09/2017 17:38

Just got a text from relative.

"Poo, I know you're away and not in work but issue with has gotten quite urgent. Can you give her a call on before Monday?"

I've typed "Oh do fuck off" but talking myself out of hitting send.

OP posts:
YouTheCat · 29/09/2017 17:41

Just type 'no' and send it.

saveforthat · 29/09/2017 17:48

Best to ignore don't reply at all

saveforthat · 29/09/2017 17:48

Best to ignore don't reply at all

BiddyPop · 29/09/2017 17:49

Ignore.

Or else just "no"

Allthebestnamesareused · 29/09/2017 17:52

Reply unfortunately I am not insured to give advice and remain liable for negligence should I advise incorrectly and thus I am unable to help.

RhiannonOHara · 29/09/2017 17:53

Just type 'no' and send it.

Yeah, this.

DartmoorDoughnut · 29/09/2017 17:59

CF indeed!

I'd go with your oh do fuck off reply tbh

choochooo · 29/09/2017 18:06

'No I am on holiday and unavailable'

Honestly this person is unbelievable!!! Total CF!

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 29/09/2017 18:08

Don't reply!

thatdearoctopus · 29/09/2017 18:10

Tell family member you are unable to help, as they've used the term "gotten."

Snap8TheCat · 29/09/2017 18:19

By repeatedly telling them you are unavailable makes it clear that you are. They are being rewarded for pestering you.

Ignore ignore ignore.

pluck · 29/09/2017 18:26

If it's so bloody urgent, why hasn't this person behaved like a grownup and just gone to see someone else?

Bet your relative is just embarrassed because his/her airy and self-assured "offer of help" has been exposed as a fraud. Relative is losing face in front of the friend!

Gartenzwerg · 29/09/2017 18:26

I would reiterate to CF that you are unable to help for the reasons outlined in your earlier mail, and that you hope that they understand. If they push you yet again, then just ignore completely.

Willow2017 · 29/09/2017 19:58

Just ignore and when she asks you after your holiday why you didn't reply just ask " I gave your friend advice to contact x who could help them. I also told you I was not available as I was on holiday. Which part of that didn't you understand?"

Some people just don't know when to give up. Their friend was probably assured you would sort out thier problem for free and save them the bother of sorting it out themselves with a professional nearer to them.

LazyDailyMailJournos · 29/09/2017 21:10

Reply back.

"No. I am on holiday. Plus I have already told you that I am not able to assist with this and that your friend needs to pay for professional advice. I am also rather unhappy that you have shared my personal email address with a complete stranger without asking me first."

Floellabumbags · 29/09/2017 21:14

Helpful part - don't reply, tell them you couldn't get Wi-Fi or phone signal

Unhelpful part - I thought you meant an actual field with grass and sheep. I was very confused.