Or is Jimmy Carr just a misogynist arse hole?

[VioletCharlotte]

This week I went to see Jimmy Carr's live show. A friend of mine had tickets and asked my go along at the last minute as their mate dropped out. Now I've never really had an opinion on Jimmy Carr, he's just someone I've never paid much attention too, so didn't really know what to expect.

Most of the 2 hours were filled with cracks about rape, special needs children, blind people and women. I came away feeling quite sad that this is what's considered comedy. Friend (male) says I've obviously had a sense of humour bypass, but AIBU in thinking actually it's just not funny and Jimmy Carr is actually just a massive idiot?

Not read the thread but I fully get satire and subversive humour and ricky G just about scrapes through I get it but Jimmy C? Nasty nasty piece of work, he isnt doing any good or making people think with his so called jokes no.

People who have been raped =- people with LD can live very well without a jumped up so called comedian trying to ( if you believe it) do them some sort of mangled favour!

It's not going to be possible to have a you shouldn't say that joke without it being offensive to someone.

But you don't need to watch JC live. Or take him seriously. He's a bit of a dweeb. Just ignore his existence!

I wouldn't go to see him live as personally, I don't think his jokes are particularly funny or clever. It's just a trope of saying offensive things with quite a cheesy setup.

I do agree that RG is funny though. I even love his dumb shrieking laugh.

Rape is surprise sex, women like rape but not football. How is the perpetrator the butt of these jokes?

So if I say Crowdo is a thick cunt. That's outrageous, I've 'presented it in a mundane fashion'. Is it funny?

Because many of his jokes are basically just insults.

And every time you make a joke about rape being enjoyable you spit on every woman who's ever been raped, nearly raped, who spends time trying to 'avoid' being raped, and you contribute to the myth that rape isn't that bad. Which unfortunately a lot of people want to believe.

If it's clearly true that women don't enjoy rape and JC doesn't really believe that, why say it other than to attack women?

Rape is surprise sex, women like rape but not football. How is the perpetrator the butt of these jokes?

They aren't. The argument that saying these shocking things provokes some sort of soul searching about why the audience is braying with laughter is specious.

Indeed Riding and Lass and you could see the punchline to that 'joke' coming a mile off, so not that clever, surprising or subversive. Pity the intelligent JC couldn't think of a different punchline, one which would shock the audience by being so unexpected.

I know I know it's the lowest form of wit

I side with John Dennis on this. The pun is the lowest form of wit.

I like FB a lot, and I like JC sometimes. I have never seen either of them live, but I wouldn't mind seeing them. I don't like every single one of their jokes, but I don't like every single joke by any comedian. Even though I "got" the joke FB said about KP and Harvey, I didn't find it funny. I get the JC rape jokes, but I don't find them funny. But they're not the only jokes they tell. I've laughed at loads of their jokes, but most comedians are a bit hit and miss with most people.

I really don't like Michael McEntire. He doesn't make me laugh, I find him really annoying, and he just says stuff like "You know that thing we all do? I do that thing too".

I'm with you on Micheal McIntyre, never found him funny in the slightest.

Love Ricky Gervais though.

I've liked some Ricky Gervais stuff, but I haven't much cared for his more recent content. I haven't seen his new stand up show yet, but I liked him best with Steve and Karl.

@RidingWindhorses

I don't think you're going to fill any stadiums with it, to be honest. It really lacks anything essentially clever. There's no 'pull back and reveal' element. Maybe try harder?

Or maybe try harder to understand the point? NB it wasn't a joke.

(Although it wasn't serious in case you think that's what I mean).

I saw Jimmy Carr live about two years ago or so and I felt exactly the same way as you OP. Full of rape jokes and misogyny, it was fucking dire. I would happily have left the show but we were with friends.