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AIBU?

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Or is Jimmy Carr just a misogynist arse hole?

389 replies

VioletCharlotte · 23/09/2017 12:08

This week I went to see Jimmy Carr's live show. A friend of mine had tickets and asked my go along at the last minute as their mate dropped out. Now I've never really had an opinion on Jimmy Carr, he's just someone I've never paid much attention too, so didn't really know what to expect.

Most of the 2 hours were filled with cracks about rape, special needs children, blind people and women. I came away feeling quite sad that this is what's considered comedy. Friend (male) says I've obviously had a sense of humour bypass, but AIBU in thinking actually it's just not funny and Jimmy Carr is actually just a massive idiot?

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NameChangr678 · 24/09/2017 19:21

I love "offensive" humour but I don't really get easily offended. Frankie Boyle is my fave though.

If you don't like him, don't watch him?

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 24/09/2017 19:23

There speaks the Boyle/carr fan base. Terminally vacuous.

glasgowdan · 24/09/2017 19:25

You lot are hilarious

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/09/2017 19:33

No one can 'make' you feel thick. It relates to something in said earlier...and it does mean some thing. You just don't understand it for whatever reason.
It's not about anyone feeling good about themselves. It's a statement so don't belittle something because you lack the ability to understand it.

Whatever.

Those of you find rape jokes funny just carry on patting yourselves on the back about how clever you are at spotting the scathing social commentary (or what other justification you claim to see ) being made by Carr et al.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/09/2017 19:43

Larry David has worked since Seinfeld the point was The Spup Nazi caused controversy as has Curb Your Enthusiasm

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 24/09/2017 19:48

So have lots of things. Doesn't alter the fact that Boyle and Carr are talentless trash. They have made controversy into an end in itself in a deeply unpleasant and unfunny manner.

Gottagetmoving · 24/09/2017 19:49

Those of you find rape jokes funny just carry on patting yourselves on the back

No one finds rape funny. No one need finds jokes promoting or dismissing rape funny.
You are not reading posts properly if you think they are.

CreamCol0uredP0nies · 24/09/2017 19:55

Can't bear Jimmy Carr but even if I found his 'humour' amusing there's no way I'd stump up my hard earned cash to line his pockets.
Tax dodger who contributes as little as possible both financially and morally to society.
Makes his money from cracking jokes at the expense of vulnerable people.

Those of you saying that he's a nice guy in real life ( apparently) need to set the bar a little higher than the bottom of the pond.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/09/2017 19:57

Right then so this "comedian" isn't even funny? So you are now effectively defending his right to make offensive unfunny jokes.

Gottagetmoving · 24/09/2017 20:04

Right then so this "comedian" isn't even funny? So you are now effectively defending his right to make offensive unfunny jokes

Oh for goodness sake...please read posts properly!

RedDogsBeg · 24/09/2017 20:08

NameChangr678 what do you define as "offensive" humour that you find funny and why the "" around offensive?

Nancy91 · 24/09/2017 20:17

I think he is funny, I can't help what I laugh at. It's the shock value of what he is saying that makes him funny in my opinion.

My friend has worked with him and said he's really stuck up and rude. But that doesn't make his jokes less funny.

I don't like Lee Evans or Peter Kay etc, that type of humour is all a bit too PC for my liking.

NameChangr678 · 24/09/2017 20:17

NameChangr678 what do you define as "offensive" humour that you find funny and why the "" around offensive?

I can't really define offensive - people get offended at different things. Hence the """", things aren't categorically offensive or not offensive - everyone has a personal reaction to a joke. Clearly a lot of people find Frankie Boyle funny or he wouldn't be selling out concert halls. I went to one of his concerts recently and it was great - I honestly couldn't find any material there that would really piss people off. He made jokes about controversial subjects but the butts of those jokes were politicians.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/09/2017 20:33

Oh for goodness sake...please read posts properly!

There are posters on here claiming to find Carr funny. Here is the most recent one.

Nancy

I think he is funny, I can't help what I laugh at. It's the shock value of what he is saying that makes him funny in my opinion

There were plenty before Nancy pitched in. I suggest you try your own patronising advice and read the thread.

Gottagetmoving · 24/09/2017 21:04

Lass You 're still not reading my posts properly.
Nancy finds Carr funny and has explained why. She finds him funnier than his jokes from the sound of it.
Personally, I don't find Carr that funny. I do find Boyle funny because he is so much more than the few really shocking comments he makes. I wouldn't call them jokes.
No one finds rape funny!

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 21:15

It’s hard to explain into words why you find anything funny surely? I find MICHAEL McIntyre funny, because what he says rings true, but that’s not really an explanation.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 21:15

I didn’t mean to shout Michael Confused

RedDogsBeg · 25/09/2017 00:01

From the OP:

"Most of the 2 hours were filled with cracks about rape, special needs children, blind people and women."

and Gotta:

No one finds rape funny!

Well people do clearly find rape funny as Jimmy Carr's remit is to make people laugh and to do this he tells jokes, they are laughing at what he says not him as a person.

People are turning themselves inside out trying to justify why what he says is funny and simultaneously claiming that the subject matter isn't funny.

If shock value is the key to making people laugh I presume they would find racist and homophobic material equally shocking and laughter inducing.

Crowdo · 25/09/2017 01:23

I believe what is being painfully misunderstood is that people find shocking and outrageous things funny as an uncontrollable reaction because it shouldn't be said. They're not laughing at the actual thing. No one is dialling up rape porn so they can laugh at it. People are going to see a comedian who will say things that are so outré that it sort of tickles them into laughter.

One must draw the conclusion from this that they don't believe these comedians genuinely believe these viewpoints.

Earlier on in the thread there was a terrible joke about rocky road, in my opinion. You can no more make me laugh about that than anyone can make you laugh at outrageous humour. I don't find plain, obvious, pun based humour to be particularly clever and hence, it does not amuse me. We're different. But I would think it obvious that the joke in that case is not rocky road. People are not baking rocky road and then finding it so overwhelming funny that they can't eat it. The joke is the pun, not the confectionery.

VanillaSugar · 25/09/2017 06:59

What's the rocky road joke?

Crowdo · 25/09/2017 08:16

"It all starts innocently, mixing chocolate and Rice Krispies. But before you know it, you’re adding raisins and marshmallows – it’s a rocky road."

CalmanOnSpeeddial · 25/09/2017 08:20

That is a terrible joke because the format demands that the punchline be "slippery slope" not "rocky road" which is a completely different metaphor. Olaf Falafel has made some great jokes but that's not one of them. You could probably make it into a functional joke with work...

Crowdo · 25/09/2017 08:29

It was someone else who told it. I don't find it particularly amusing. But it serves as a method of showing that a joke may be about a particular subject without that subject having any intrinsic humour in itself.

Gottagetmoving · 25/09/2017 08:33

Well people do clearly find rape funny as Jimmy Carr's remit is to make people laugh and to do this he tells jokes, they are laughing at what he says not him as a person
I don't find him funny. He sometimes makes an odd quip that's amusing. I have never heard his jokes about rape. I would imagine Carr's material and intention with that material is different to Boyle's. I don't think the two are comparable.
I like Boyle because he covers serious issues and attacks misogyny, oppression and poverty. He is not a comedian of the same ilk as Carr.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 25/09/2017 08:52

I agree that JC and FB are different their material is different. JC is funny at times but I don't think he is as I intelligent as FB

Also why do we laugh at what we laugh at someone falling over sometimes makes people laugh, embarrassing stories make people laugh, what we are not meant to laugh at can make us laugh we laugh when we shocked or nervous and this is what many comedians base their material on it's not to everybody bed taste

So no I do not laugh at rape, terrorism, paedophilia, disabilities, mental health issues and so on I do not sit and laugh about the above issues should I read or hear about it but laughing at a gag about them yes I might do

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