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Or is Jimmy Carr just a misogynist arse hole?

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VioletCharlotte · 23/09/2017 12:08

This week I went to see Jimmy Carr's live show. A friend of mine had tickets and asked my go along at the last minute as their mate dropped out. Now I've never really had an opinion on Jimmy Carr, he's just someone I've never paid much attention too, so didn't really know what to expect.

Most of the 2 hours were filled with cracks about rape, special needs children, blind people and women. I came away feeling quite sad that this is what's considered comedy. Friend (male) says I've obviously had a sense of humour bypass, but AIBU in thinking actually it's just not funny and Jimmy Carr is actually just a massive idiot?

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/09/2017 09:51

Saying what is not meant to be said

Saying those dark thoughts that might have crossed our minds because we all have dark thoughts

Making people uncomfortable with what is being said

No one says all have to find it funny but what do you want comedy to be censored

Babyblues14 · 24/09/2017 09:55

I don't ever watch jimmy carr. I've never even heard any of his jokes.
I couldn't bring myself to watch him because his laugh makes me wants to tear my ears off

user1490465531 · 24/09/2017 09:55

A good comedian doesn't need to result to low cheap jokes to get a laugh.
Sadly jimmy carr etc are pretty talentless hence needing to go for the shock option.

everybodysang · 24/09/2017 10:08

I am a comedian. And a woman. I'm not very keen on JC but I am a bit mystified at him being lumped in with Frankie Boyle. Those of you who despise Frankie Boyle - is it because of those particular, well-publicised gags? Or have you seen him live and still hated him? It's obviously fine to not like a comedian, that's not what I'm getting at - it's just that they are two very, very different performers and I'm curious.
FWIW I think FB is a very smart, funny comedian and sometimes I am shocked by his material.
But I see much, much more shocking material night after night on the comedy circuit, delivered by comedians without anywhere near FB's level of awareness and political nous so that definitely colours my opinion.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/09/2017 10:09

Really Larry David is one of the funniest comic writers many would say the funniest

Much of his work is about people being uncomfortable by what they are watching some will shock you

Spring Time for Hitler that is not funny to some no to many it's hilarious

TheStoic · 24/09/2017 10:12

Oh do please explain the point/s he is trying to make. We are too stupid to understand

Well maybe you are,...

Oh I get it now! HAHAHAHA! It was actually a dig at Katie Price! AHAHAHA. Oh my sides!!

Very brave of him. Katie Price is by no means an easy target...

MorrisZapp · 24/09/2017 10:18

Jesus christ. I've read the Chortle link and it includes the original gag. I'm depressed that be sharing this planet with someone who could make that joke.

By all means lampoon Katie Price, I've laughed at many jokes about her type of publicity seeking. But to say that about her son, I have no words. His 'explanation' makes it worse.

Gottagetmoving · 24/09/2017 10:19

Oh I get it now! HAHAHAHA! It was actually a dig at Katie Price! AHAHAHA. Oh my sides!!Very brave of him. Katie Price is by no means an easy target

Oh dear,...no, not just a dig at KP. It's about celebrities using anything for publicity. The hypocrisy of someone who puts themself out there but doesn't like it being used against them.
KP is no fool...She is very astute and can be cruel and vile herself. Anyone who is in her position is a target...ask her..because she targets people when the fancy takes her.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 10:30

What pisses me off about Frankie Boyle is that he’s suddenly become a self-appointed spokesperson of the left and the poor - does he expect us to forget that he made a joke about a disabled child (yes a disabled child of a millionairess but still part of one of society’s most vulnerable groups) raping his mother? He cares soooo much about vulnerable people, until he can use them as fodder for his shows. Stupid twat

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 24/09/2017 10:31

Woman courts publicity makes it fair game to insult her vulnerable child? Right-o?

Luncharmstrong · 24/09/2017 10:33

I love Elendons one liners !

Gottagetmoving · 24/09/2017 10:40

Woman courts publicity makes it fair game to insult her vulnerable child? Right-o

His intention was to shock, of course and he did.
Yes, it was in bad taste. Yes, it was cruel but then so is courting publicity using your son or any child. Many people find that offensive too.

butterfly56 · 24/09/2017 10:41

Jimmy Carr definitely not funny. Definitely a mysoginist among a lot of other things. Nasty piece of work.

TheStoic · 24/09/2017 10:41

Oh dear,...no, not just a dig at KP. It's about celebrities using anything for publicity

Oh my mistake - it was so much deeper than comments about a disabled boy. By 'celebrities', do you also mean 'comedians'?

MorrisZapp · 24/09/2017 10:45

No. There is no possible parallel to be drawn between an admittedly ghastly publicity hound using her child to generate attention and a joke about a disabled boy raping his mother.

Katie Price practically writes her own satire. There is so much to mock. Have at it, I reckon.

But her son is a child with physical and mental disabilities. Mocking him or making that staggeringly tasteless joke about him is on another level entirely. He isn't a theoretical person, he's a real one.

Emilybrontescorsett · 24/09/2017 10:47

He isn't funny.
His laugh makes me want to punch him.

derxa · 24/09/2017 11:00

What political point is Frankie making when he says that Rebecca Adlington has a face like a dolphin or that Camilla Parker Bowles looks like Diana would have after the crash?

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/09/2017 11:05

I don't think he is making a political point

He is vocalising thoughts he may have had or heard that others have had or similar the ones we quickly push aside becuase they make us uncomfortable and we know shouldn't be vocalised

Well thoughts the general population have as I know I shall be told by some I never have such thoughts

TheLuminaries · 24/09/2017 11:06

Harvey did not choose his mother, he is not responsible for his mother's actions and he does not deserve to be the butt of a nasty man's 'jokes'. I very much lump Frankie Boyle into the Jimmy Carr, Jim Davidson, Bernard Manning school of comedy - cheap laughs at people who aren't straight white men. The fact he occasionally says something PC does not make him any different or better than the Bernard Mannings of this world.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/09/2017 11:07

The explanation for the Harvey joke is pathetic. I wonder how long it took him to think that up.

Does Katie Price exploit her son? I don't think she does. She makes the public aware of his existence and of the terrible disabilities he has - why should she not?

I recall her talking about the difficulties she had accessing specialised transport- why should she not talk about that.

TheLuminaries · 24/09/2017 11:09

Exactly EnthusiasmDisturbed like Berbard Manning voices the secret thoughts of racists, Jimmy Carr the secret thoughts of rapists and Frankie Boyle the secret thoughts of disabilists. By doing so, they legitimise such thoughts as 'what everyone thinks, really, if they were brave enough to say so.' They make hating on the 'other' seem OK. Well, it shouldn't be.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/09/2017 11:12

But I would never want comedy to be censored

Some will find Bernard Manning funny others won't some find Jimmy Carr funny others won't

I don't think you have to be racist or a rapist to have dark thoughts we all have them

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/09/2017 11:13

He is vocalising thoughts he may have had or heard that others have had or similar the ones we quickly push aside becuase they make us uncomfortable and we know shouldn't be vocalised

Tosh. We (and I am using a general we) might have these terrible thoughts and we push them aside because they are terrible. There is no need for a vicious, arrogant boor to vocalise them.

And personally it would have taken all eternity I would still not have thought of the stuff Boyle and Carr are "vocalising" on my behalf.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/09/2017 11:17

So you want comedy to be censored ?

derxa · 24/09/2017 11:24

So you want comedy to be censored ? No I just don't want to be politically lectured at by people whose jokes I find disgusting and who seem to be given a political platform on mainstream TV.

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