Do your family, friends, work colleagues, anyone ever discuss Brexit anymore?

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My family don't. None of my friends are interested. Nor are my work colleagues.

Was wondering if it ever comes up in anyone else's conversations.

Not with my Brexiteer parents. But with my husband (Irish, so wondering what he will need to do to stay here), colleagues and clients. In fact I've spent the past two weeks drafting a response to one of the Select Committee reports on Brexit for a client. It's such an enormous mess.

imminent I don't think they regret their vote at all. The clue is in your All of their children made their disappointment very clear. . So great you believe in the vote for all. They are unlikely to discuss it with you tbh. They'd vote the same again tomorrow.

Yes, all the time, may as well laugh at the fucking horrendous meltdown we are heading towards. Its either that or cry.

People I don't bring it up with, unless they bring it up first or is directly required for conversation, not wanting to inadvertently cause offence:

Yes - colleagues in temporary job I did for a few months (school). None of the ones who brought it up had voted Leave.
Yes - not-close friends and acquaintances, e.g. a few other parents at school gate wanting to find out (or discuss, if in similar field) how it has affected above mentioned.
Yes - PiL who voted Leave and periodically bring it up, but only wanting us to reassure them how marvellous their vote was, then get grumpy that we're not leaping about joyously.

People I do bring it up with, whenever I think there's an interesting point for discussion or just for a moan:

Yes - colleagues in academia whom I have worked with for ages (science, university). All voted Remain and are, mysteriously, thus far not on the "getting behind Brexit" train.
Yes - immediate family (DH and our siblings) regarding strategies for minimising impact on our jobs, household expenses. Also longer-term planning for our emigration.
Yes - good friends who I know would be interested in talking about whatever the item is.

Having left the country it comes up less but it was a major factor in leaving the UK for a few years. Friends from abroad will bring up the first time we meet in a what on earth is your country doing sort of way.

I knew someone would pull me up on that ThickandThin. My DH's parents voted out for racist reasons (actually spelled out to me in an email). They then tried to pretend it was for the sake of their grandchildren and their future. At which point (after the vote), it was expressed to them that if they'd bothered to ask their grandchildren, they would have found they all wanted to remain. Disappointment in them being racist fibbers justified. No one told them which way to vote beforehand.

My parents did no research apart from the Daily Mail. All of their children's jobs are vulnerable in the event of Brexit. I think we have a right to express disappointment seeing as we told them this beforehand. No one told them which way to vote.

You may be right in that they wouldn't change their vote in a subsequent referendum. I find most Leavers are in complete denial about the complexity and the effects of Brexit. I think my Dad would change given his behaviour in the recent election. Mum might, depends how much exposure to the Daily Mail she's had, she definitely regrets it given her behaviour. DH's Dad expected a Norway style Brexit. Ha. His mum would probably still vote leave because she doesn't like seeing Polish on the welcome sign at the Dr.

the older members of my family mention it (looking at you, fil). it usually comes up when he starts ranting about 'bloody forrinaaaazz'. i switch off.

The vote was held and (from my point of view) lost. What's to discuss?

Jesus wept.

Lunch time today.

No.

All of the time, but I work for a European owned company and the impact on us is huge.

I like histinyhands's point. We're to blame for the Leave vote because we're experts/supercilious/refuse to engage in stupid, circular arguments.

All the time. The country is truly fucked.

Anyone of the 37% of the population that voted to drive the county off of a cliff into Armageddon, should be so proud

Yes, pretty much daily.

No, I find Remainers unbearably whiney, moany, negative and doom and gloom laden and refuse to discuss it with them. I don't discuss it with those who voted Leave because we won and we just want to see it happen.

Comments like this are made by people who don't read the right papers or understand what the long term economic consequences will be a reduce it to a football match type of 'we won you lost' nonsense without any consideration of the implications. Baffles me really.

I live in NZ now but have lived in Europe and grew up in the U.K. Colleagues over here still can't believe the British decision and view The UK as being filled with xenophobic nutters with the only sane ones now desperately trying to move abroad!

I have to agree with them. As soon as we heard the referendum result we applied for citizenship here. We were terrified of having to move back to a tiny backward the thinking, isolated Island.

So yes I do discuss it a lot. I'm also holding a vague hope that people might come their senses and stop this isolationist policy.

It strikes me a bit like the 2 sides of the abortion debate. A lot of Remainers want to have their view and vote heard but also don't want me to have mine. Everyone should (or hopefully did) vote as they see fit and then the chips fall where they may.

Remainers are so sure they are right and have a pretty scathing view of leavers (in general) remainers are often called idiots, uneducate, manipulated by the media or selfish, imo you don't often hear of leavers suggesting these things about remainers.

A lot of Remainers are just so sure, vocal and nasty to leavers as they can't see their point of view at all. The subject just seems too emotional and black and white for them.

I just want my right to make the decision I see as the best one (for me and the country as a whole) without being attacked for my political views. IMO it is attacked by a lot of remainers, I'm not one to shy away from a genuine debate but can't be doing with some remainers deciding leavers are bad people and acting like I shouldnt have a right to make my decision. If you're a remainer remember that I have the right to decide what to do with my vote, claiming it's wrong as I'm selfish, ignorant, duped, etc is childish.

Sorry that this is written as a mix of past/present/future. Dyslexic so can struggle to get my thoughts across in a logical ordee

I'm basing my opinion on contacts in real life and the reasons they have given for voting leave - 'because we need more employment rights', 'because the EU didn't stop wars' being two and frankly I'm not going to apologise for pointing those out as simply wrong. It's just a very bad decision and it affects us all so we won't stop moaning and doing whatever we can, being active in political parties or attending marches to change the course of this very bad idea.

Some people

Can we please use the word some a bit more

Some people who voted remain are ...

Some people who voted leave are ...

It would save my blood pressure is nothing else

Yes. Almost everyday. But then I moved to Dublin after the vote (because of the vote and what it represented for my family). Its impact on Ireland is going to be fairly important so is talked about a lot. Of course, not many in the UK care about its impact on Ireland but that is taken as a norm in Ireland (centuries of oppression do create a certain mindset). The negatives (no Leaver ever coming up with a solution to Northern Ireland and the land border) and the positives (second hand cars from UK are much cheaper) have all been covered.

"I just want my right to make the decision I see as the best one (for me and the country as a whole) without being attacked for my political views."

Fair enough but as long as you are happy with the fact that it is negatively affecting so many peoples lives then you are going to have to face a level of opprobrium. The vote wasnt just about you. Which is a level of selfishness that I dont think Leavers understand.

Scottish

I believe Brexit will be better for the UK in the long term in general. I didn't just vote for myself.

Getting a mortgage will no doubt be more difficult for me now. I'm a single parent. There is definitely some benefits and some disadvantages but based on what I believed was likely to happen with the EU in the future I voted leave. It's not a popular opinion but I think the future generations will be better of because of Brexit. That's in general and potentially long term but I don't make decisions only considering the initial consequences which I do appreciate will make some lives (mine included) difficult.

Again I weighed up the opinions, used my knowledge and belief about what was going to happen in future to make the decision I did and I hope everyone else did as well.

Although I appreciate there was issues on both sides, some racist people voting leave, some people who couldn't bear to be tarred with the racist label so voted remain (this was my dad's actual reason - he said he felt compelled to vote leave on the balance of the arguments but just couldn't bear to align himself with Farage, which seems ridiculous when his actual view was leave was the better option)

I discuss it a lot, but then I live in an area with a lot of immigration and a lot of those immigrants are going home, so it's virtually impossible to recruit for jobs here - there are about twice as many vacancies as jobseekers so is services are being reduced, care packages reduced etc.

When it's discussed at work, it's either contingency planning and prepping or commenting on the governments ludicrous lack of attempt to do any sort of preparation for s hard Brexit in terms of customs etc.

Interestingly the government's total ineptitude seems to be common ground for the leavers and remainers I know.

Arriving in an EU country on holiday we were discussing how we should enjoy the simplicity of standing in the EU passport queue as soon we will be in the slow moving "non EU" one. And how we won't have the EU health card.

Also couldn't get over the increase in prices caused by the weak pound. This was in a Southern European country which has really struggled but now seems ludicrously expensive to us Brits thanks to Brexit.

Nah - not really; a vote was taken, a result happened. Now it's the 1 country against a 26 country collective who are pretty pissed off that one of their major contributors are leaving.

I'm just pleased that negotiations and the formology is going on.

So, no, not really, not a thing to discuss as top of the agenda.

Probably might do when the actually agreement is put forward, but until then over-emo angst about a minority isn't really a discussion point.

As ever of course, the weather is primo importante.

"I believe Brexit will be better for the UK in the long term in general. I didn't just vote for myself."

In what way? What do you believe will happen. Many a leaver thought we would only be the first and others would be leaving by now. Others though the Euro was going to collapse but now the EU economy is growing faster than the UKs? I mean for people like me it meant leaving the UK. The policy direction to make the UK better is to not like immigrants and being married to one it makes the UK worse for me.

Its a live issue for people in Ireland as well. Will they still be treated the same at the ports? How will the border be managed. Will Irish citizens be treated differently when it comes to jobs etc in the UK?