Do your family, friends, work colleagues, anyone ever discuss Brexit anymore?

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My family don't. None of my friends are interested. Nor are my work colleagues.

Was wondering if it ever comes up in anyone else's conversations.

That sucks, Chillimum. I'm moving to France and may or may not be allowed to stay, but at least my family didn't vote for this. Ex-fiancé's family did and he continues to make excuses for them, that was the main reason why he became an ex!

When opposition is faced by people simply refusing to discuss anything with people that voted a different way to them.

I don't understand that point. Who is reluctant to discuss?

I often ask leavers questions- see earlier- they hardly ever reply. I'm on another thread, where leavers announce their position but if asked anything further they just disappear. It's strange.

But plenty of people on this thread are Leavers saying they won't discuss it because they won end of. Or because Remoaners are too miserable. Which perhaps highlights why the majority voting to Leave was such a narrow one.

There are more remainers saying they refuse to discuss it with leavers. IMO 2016/17 has been a horrible year for politics. So devisive. And the recent election was too Americanised imo focusing on characters rather than parties.

Yes, but not with emotional remainers who only want to keep having re-runs of arguments they've already lost.

rosesarered9 Please don't keep repeating the nonsense about the referendum not being binding, it only makes you look ill-informed. Parliament said the referendum was binding, Cameron said it was binding, even the government's little pro-EU propaganda leaflet said it was binding. How much more do you want? Can you not just accept the majority of voters disagreed with you?

There are more remainers saying they refuse to discuss it with leavers

I'm not going to pretend I counted the posts but clearly it's not the one-way thing that your statement claims.

I still happily argue my case against Leavers at every opportunity to do so...but find they tell me to shut up once I try to bring out things like "facts" as part of my argument

I find it so strange that people can know either only Leavers or only Remainers. How do you manage to live such a restricted life that you never come up against people who have differing political views on something as divisive as Brexit?

I think because Brexit was an issue with dividing lines such as age, education, social class.

I think for my family who live in "Middle England", they certainly know many people on both sides, and many of my school friends were for Brexit. But in my professional life, which has many people from an international background and with higher degrees, in a metropolitan area, I don't think I know any leavers.

Chilli aren't you eligible for citizenship of the EU country you live in? Or will you be once you've lived there a bit longer? I started the ball rolling to get mine when the referendum was announced - like taking out insurance...

I'm not going to pretend I counted the posts but clearly it's not the one-way thing that your statement claims

It wasn't a statement and it didn't claim to be one way anything..

I try to discuss it with leavers on here

No. The vote was held and (from my point of view) lost. What's to discuss?

I wouldn't discuss it with Leave voters, no. Before the referendum, sure, bring it on! But now? They've had their fun little moment of Schadenfreude (am I still allowed to use foreign words?) and will have many more, whereas the rest of us are too busy with personal damage limitation to want to listen to 'Ner ner na ner ner remoaners, send 'em all home!' ad nauseam.

Yes

but in real life everyone has seemed to have got over it

It hasn't even happened yet so how have you got over it?

You still have a long time yet to regret such a stupid, self harming move, don't worry.

Yes but we all voted to Remain (we are in Scotland).

Still can't believe it is going to happen. It's like a slow motion car crash.

No. The vote was held and (from my point of view) lost. What's to discuss?

Everything. Isn't that the point? That no-one in government seemed to have a plan for what would actually happen, and what the UK Government wanted. That we have to come up with a position on what we do want? That's why there are Brexit negotiations going on.

I discuss it at work a lot, or at least people want to discuss it with me. Interested to see that no one assumes I voted leave (I didn't) because they see the whole thing as the sheer madness that it is. I am still hoping the thing will crash and die, but if not I will apply for foreign nationality to protect my family. This makes me furious and sad in equal measure. It just shouldn't be necessary!

It hasn't even happened yet so how have you got over it

Because the referendum is over and the votes counted. I'm just saying from my own personal experience.

It wasn't a statement and it didn't claim to be one way anything

Of course it was a statement, you stated that this thread is a prime example of why the majority voted to leave. When opposition is faced by people simply refusing to discuss anything with people that voted a different way to them

And there's a clear implication in there that you are talking about people who voted to Leave feeling that Remainers won't discuss it with them - since you say it's an example of why people voted to Leave not to Remain.

Well, this thread is a prime example of why the majority voted to leave. When opposition is faced by people simply refusing to discuss anything with people that voted a different way to them.

I'm not taking responsibility for people choosing to vote leave either. Why on earth is it my fault?

I think because Brexit was an issue with dividing lines such as age, education, social class.
I completely understand that - but I find it unusual that someone's entire network could be so homogenous as to not contain that variety of age, education and social class.

My friends and my colleagues overwhelmingly voted one way, but there's much more variety within my family, neighbours and extended circle.

Evelyn, I hope Chilli and as many others as possible do get the citizenship they need, but there will be plenty of people who moved abroad in good faith who risk deportation in a no deal scenario, as I'm sure you know. I bought a house before the referendum but haven't fully moved in yet, as it was a 'fixer-upper' and I wanted to wait until it was habitable. If I had moved right away,I still wouldn't have the five years of residence necessary to stay. So I'm planning to marry my OH who is French,and hope that will do the trick and we can stay together, in my house or in his. I have nowhere to live in the UK once my current rented place is sold and am unlikely to find anywhere or earn enough to bring a spouse in from overseas, so this whole situation is pretty grim for me.

I feel very sorry for all the people who will suffer under Brexit and can't understand how people don't see the difference between patriotism and xenophobia. It's ok to be patriotic and appreciate the country you live in however Brexit is going to destroy so much that is fantastic about the UK, the whole brexit movement is sabotage in action. You don't tear apart your country and drive your fellow citizens into poverty if you love your country. The British people have been played by some masterful manipulation drawing on their lower instincts (envy, dislike of strangers).
I feel sorry for the country, it's nuts.

AccrualIntentions Upthread thereare multiple examples of those voting to Remain that said they refused to discuss anything with those that voted to Leave

histinyhandsarefrozen sorry but I don't understand your last post.

@MissionItsPossible I'm not disputing that. And presumably you aren't disputing the multiple examples of Leavers saying they won't discuss it with Remainers?