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Do your family, friends, work colleagues, anyone ever discuss Brexit anymore?

459 replies

StevieNicksMirage · 16/09/2017 17:11

My family don't. None of my friends are interested. Nor are my work colleagues.

Was wondering if it ever comes up in anyone else's conversations.

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FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 17/09/2017 10:56

*Bt you're calling people who aren't happy with the vote outcome and more importantly how the exit is going remoaners.

Is it only good little remainers who stay quiet that are fine?*

😂

No!

I'm calling people who say things like this Remoaners:

^Often say " bet he/she voted Brexit" in a variety of situations where someone pisses me off.

I wouldn't be friends with anyone who voted brexit.^

Chestervase1 · 17/09/2017 11:03

Ok so we will ignore the economic situation in Greece and the lives lost in two World Wars. Can anyone explain to me why Belgium for example has far more generous benefits and why there is such a huge difference in the EU in the age that you claim pensions.

BoneyBackJefferson · 17/09/2017 11:05

but they still went out in droves and voted for this in the face of credible concerns and factual arguments against it.

Until the dying death of the referendum the remain campaign was (frankly) shit, and it was only when they realised that there was a good chance of them loosing that they started putting the "credible concerns and factual arguments" forward.

Whether the remain camp like it or not, there complacency during the referendum is also to blame for this.

artisancraftbeer · 17/09/2017 11:05

Because other governments care about social welfare more than we go in the Uk and adapt their tax structures to cope. In the U.K. People prefer low taxes and low welfare, elsewhere, they don't. It's not an EU matter.

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:06

Faith Would you be so generous as to give me your thoughts on the bill?

Would you be so generous to give me a reason to love Brexit?

Heratnumber7 · 17/09/2017 11:07

As one of the biggest crises affecting the country for a generation!

Or alternatively, one of the biggest opportunities for a generation.

The market outside of the EU is much bigger than the market inside of the EU.

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:08

Because each country has it's own autonomy within a union of autonomous states.

That's why the health system is different in each country. Why social benefits are different in each country - universal benefits is a system special to the UK.

Evelynismyspyname · 17/09/2017 11:08

Chester why do you keep going on about the two world wars? Please explain what on earth you think lives list in WW1 and WW2 have to do with the EU / Brexit?

TheElementsSong · 17/09/2017 11:08

the lives lost in two World Wars

Why don't you stop ignoring the question of why you brought up "we (standing alone, natch) won the wars" as a reason for Brexit? I'm sure it will be nothing to do with showing Johnny Foreigner who's boss, or the EU being some Hun conspiracy, and we didn't go to war to let 'em win in the long run, hmm?

artisancraftbeer · 17/09/2017 11:09

We could trade with the rest of the world from within the EU if we wanted to. Other countries manage.

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:13

The market outside of the EU is much bigger than the market inside of the EU

Do you have figures to support that? The USA and Canada have declared it will take a generation to get deals in place - they much prefer to deal with the EU - the union will always take precedence.

As for trade with the nations of South America? That's not going to fill the coffers.

All Asian and Orient countries are bound by WTO rules. As is Australia. The Commonwealth has nothing to do with trade.

The UK interest in the Caribbean is now in crisis.

CaptainBrickbeard · 17/09/2017 11:14

How on earth is discussing the ridiculous nature of Brexit 'ignoring the lives lost in two world wars'??? Where is there even the most tenuous of links between the fallen of the wars and Brexit? It is the most irrelevant vacuity I have seen dragged into the whole debate.

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:15

Can some of the leavers please PLEASE give me something positive to hope for in the next few years?

ConciseandNice · 17/09/2017 11:17

If there would be riots then that says all you need to know about people who voted for Brexit. Idiots.

Chestervase1 · 17/09/2017 11:19

When you give me your reason for ignoring Greece. It seems to me and millions of others that we are giving far more than we are receiving. So people can come and use our NHS but we cannot use their hospitals without personal insurance. Throw all the insults you want you cannot answer me though can you?

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:19

I don't want to just 'manage'. I want to be part of a society that is wealthy. Wealthy in terms of GDP, social benefits, equality, good standard of living.

Manage?

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:22

So people can come and use our NHS but we cannot use their hospitals without personal insurance. Throw all the insults you want you cannot answer me though can you?

How many UK citizens use Greek hospitals annually?

How many non EU citizens use the NHS annually?

TheElementsSong · 17/09/2017 11:22

It is the most irrelevant vacuity

And there is some stiff competition in a crowded field Grin

Can some of the leavers please PLEASE give me something positive to hope for in the next few years?

Can I try?

How about: France, Spain, Italy and Austria will be freed from their uniformly-blended EU-porridge, to once again proudly express their individual cultures. What's that? They haven't been mashed up into an indistinguishable mass? Lies! Fake news!

NataliaOsipova · 17/09/2017 11:23

We could trade with the rest of the world from within the EU if we wanted to.

We're going to have to. And that will mean, I'm afraid, pandering to the likes of Donald Trump. Doing more and more backroom deals on the QT like the one with Nissan. We will trade with the rest of the world, but it'll be from a significantly weakened position.

artisancraftbeer · 17/09/2017 11:24

At the moment we can use EU hospitals with EHIC cards on the same basis as the local residents. We'll need insurance after Brexit.

TheElementsSong · 17/09/2017 11:24

When you give me your reason for ignoring Greece

Well, you brought up the Wars, and now you're going to avoid the question? Go on, I'm desperate to be enlightened, pretty please!

CaptainBrickbeard · 17/09/2017 11:24

Are there seriously Leavers with a romanticised vision of post-Brexit Britain recalling the imaginary 'glory days' of the post-war period? Like we will all grow our own vegetables and make do and mend and darn our own stockings and be jolly plucky and brave and finally we'll be able to talk about how Great Britain is great without all the political correctness gone mad? Is that really, truly the vision?

The world is a different place now; yes, change can be bewildering but looking back at the past with rose tinted spectacles won't help. The past wasn't perfect, neither is the present and nor will be the future. We have to accept change and adapt, celebrate what is better now and continue to improve. Brexit is a hugely regressive step; it's an attempt to recreate an idyll that never existed.

Chestervase1 · 17/09/2017 11:24

Spain had 39% youth unemployment in June 2017 but let's not worry about that either.

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:26

This is a break down of foreign born citizens living in the UK.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign-born_population_of_the_United_Kingdom

There is a mixture on EU and non EU citizens.

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:27

Chester you are making it up unless you can provide links as supportive evidence.