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Do your family, friends, work colleagues, anyone ever discuss Brexit anymore?

459 replies

StevieNicksMirage · 16/09/2017 17:11

My family don't. None of my friends are interested. Nor are my work colleagues.

Was wondering if it ever comes up in anyone else's conversations.

OP posts:
NataliaOsipova · 17/09/2017 11:28

Brexit is a hugely regressive step; it's an attempt to recreate an idyll that never existed.

...and, even if you think it did, it is undeniable that it was a time when we were a lot poorer. Average incomes, in real terms, would be about a third of the level they are today. Standards of living were much lower. So we can go back to that. But only by being a lot poorer as a country. That was the choice.

TheElementsSong · 17/09/2017 11:29

Like we will all grow our own vegetables and make do and mend and darn our own stockings and be jolly plucky

Ah, you've been on the food prices thread, I see Grin

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:30

You can still apply for the EHIC card! (Bet all those who voted leave have done it).

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:32

I don't want to go back to the day when I had to press button A and then button B in a urine stinky phone box. Thank you very much!

WyclefJohn · 17/09/2017 11:32

The market outside of the EU is much bigger than the market inside of the EU.

But they´re a long way away!

If you look our biggest trading partners, we export 3 times as much to the EU as to the USA.

For the USA, after the EU and China, their biggest trading partners are Canada and Mexico. It is much easier to trade with our close partners who are wealthy than say other big markets that are further away.

65% of UK´s exports are to the EU and US and China (44% is the EU). We are making it difficult to trade with our biggest partners, which will inevitably make us poorer.

CaptainBrickbeard · 17/09/2017 11:33

Precisely, Natalia, will we all go to the neighbours' to watch the one tv on the street?! I don't think so.

Elements, yes 😂 Am so pleased Brexit will cure obesity as well as everything else! A return to rationing - hurrah!

CaptainBrickbeard · 17/09/2017 11:34

And I notice that Chester can in no way defend her link to the dead of the two world wars...so surprising!

Heratnumber7 · 17/09/2017 11:45

And that will mean, I'm afraid, pandering to the likes of Donald Trump
By the time we leave the EU Trump will only have a short time left as POTUS if he even lasts that long.

Elendon · 17/09/2017 11:55

I think Trump will get his second term. Never under estimate the powers that be. however he will do shit all when it comes to the UK and trade

CaptainBrickbeard · 17/09/2017 11:57

I would just add that analysis of the votes suggested a swing back to Remain in the very oldest voters e.g. the actual veterans of WWII, making it even more distasteful to attempt to hijack the losses for the Leave agenda.

Chestervase1 · 17/09/2017 12:06

Csptainbrickbeard my family were decimated in the Second World War. I am not hijacking anything. I am however pointing out that Greece and the youth in Spain are suffering high enemployment. Please research it yourself. My dad was on an MTB boat defending the English Channel age 18 and an uncle was one of the first to land st Dunkirk. Remainers carry on sneering.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 17/09/2017 12:11

no one is sneering

We just don't understand the comment, and you dont seem to be able to explain it

TheElementsSong · 17/09/2017 12:13

my family were decimated in the Second World War

Is this a unique family characteristic, unusual amongst the general population, granting their descendants in perpetua a greater right to comment on sundry issues with only distant connections to the War?

Chestervase1 · 17/09/2017 12:15

TheElementsSong do fuck off dear

CaptainBrickbeard · 17/09/2017 12:18

Again, Chester, what's the connection to Brexit?

Oh, there isn't one.

Elendon · 17/09/2017 12:21

My relatives were decimated, tragically, in the first world war, My grandfather survived because he was a prisoner of war - he was put to work in the fields to supply food. He was exempt in the call up during the second world war. He lost his two brothers in Ypres.

The EU was about uniting nations to ensure that war would never happen in Europe again.

I can't find suitable links Chester to support your argument. Perhaps you would be so kind to provide those?

Plus, can you give me a positive?

Chestervase1 · 17/09/2017 12:22

We were taken into the European Union as a trade agreement. We never had the vote to sign our Sovereign Rights over to the European Union.

surferjet · 17/09/2017 12:28

leavers
You really should stop engaging with the remainers of mumsnet, ( most of us have )
They repeat the same stuff over & over again, clearly have an agenda, have zero charisma, personality or sense of humour, they're just like boring robots pressing the same monotonous buttons.
They love putting leavers down as it gives them some sort of release, so please, for your own sake, ignore them.
Brexit is happening, they'll never accept it or get over it, but that's their problem not ours.
Leave them to moan amongst themselves.

Elendon · 17/09/2017 12:28

Oh and my grandfather voted to enter into the EU. He was adamant to get to the polling station. He was my mum's dad.

WyclefJohn · 17/09/2017 12:30

We were taken into the European Union as a trade agreement. We never had the vote to sign our Sovereign Rights over to the European Union.

Have we not been having general elections on a fairly regular basis since 1975?

Elendon · 17/09/2017 12:30

Of course it was a trade agreement, but the undertones regarding the Treaty of Rome were made very clear to that generation that had gone through two world wars.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 17/09/2017 12:34

leavers
You really should stop engaging with the remainers of mumsnet, ( most of us have )
They repeat the same stuff over & over again,

Exactly Surfer Wine

TheElementsSong · 17/09/2017 12:34

I just adore surfer complaining about Remainers having no sense of humour, putting people down, etc. When only a few posts above, Chester has just told me to, well, fornicate elsewhere. It's a realy good look I must say.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 17/09/2017 12:38

Didnt you say you were going to stop engaging faith

If people who voted leave a year ago not realising that doing so would follow them for the rest of their lives stopped engaging with oeople who voted remain a year ago without realising it woukd follow them for the rest of their lives then the thread would stop

Im not engaging...i just pop on when something looks interesting...or really dumb

And breathe

CaptainBrickbeard · 17/09/2017 12:38

Chester, if we can establish that indeed the fact the people died in the world wars has absolutely zero connection to Brexit, we can move onto your other argument regarding Greece and then Spain.

I assume, in the absence of any explanation, that you were implying opposition to Brexit is unpatriotic and this in some way besmirching those who fought for their country in the wars. I the contrary, I do not wish to see Britain weakened, suffering and ridiculous hence my vote to remain in the EU.

Surfer doesn't engage with Remainers because she cannot defend her viewpoint.