AIBU to be fuming that DS has been sent home because of his hair???

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DS had his haircut just before he started secondary school. In the uniform rules, it just saying no "extreme hairstyles" does not give any kind of description as to what those may be. Bugger me, he goes in with a perfect uniform, a nice smart haircut and is told it's a no!!! They have said that he is to be in isolation until it grows to an acceptable length they didn't say what would be classed as extreme!!!!!!!!

The majority of us are one way or another.

My friend's daughter is at a "no uniform" school. We were talking about it today. It's not the creative, express yourself utopia many of you seem to be imagining, just lots of tears and tantrums and stress about having the right stuff. And expensive too.

One way or the other in what sense peaceandlove?

It's the same haircut as Kim Jung Un. Maybe they're worried about Armageddon in the class room.

Some people are missing the bit where OP said it was no where near as short as the photos posted.

Isn't it bizarre that a teenage boy with a short haircut is so beyond that pale that he has to be isolated from his classmates, but another teenage boy might turn up at school declaring that he is now a girl called Lulu and must be referred to as she and given access to the girls' changing rooms and that's not a problem?! In fact, any child who has the temerity to question this distortion of biological reality, the rules of the English language and girls' right to privacy might find themselves languishing in the shame of isolation along with the boy with the short hair.

So true! What a time to be alive. Boys at my school back in the day definitely had grade 1 all over with no isolation. It wasn't the most flattering look - but didn't seem to require isolation from classmates.

My kids are still toddlers so I'm not up to date on fashionable hairstyles, but I quite like the pictures posted on page 1. Could someone please explain to me why is obvious that a cut like this wouldn't be allowed? Is it because of some culture reference that I don't get?

Spend some time in a 'good' secondary school and observe the difference in uniform standards between that and one in special measures. I guarantee the school in special measures will have kids with all sorts of weird and wonderful adjustments to the basic uniform. The better school - both in terms of behaviour and results and Ofsted grading - will have control of hair length. Every time.

Spend some time in another country and you'll soon realise that school uniforms have fuck all to do with behaviour - good or bad.

Theres not much difference between a short back and sides and the National Socialist haircut.

www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/fashion/a-haircut-returns-from-the-1930s.html?mcubz=1

The same stupid excuses were used in the 1980s. I dyed my hair for leaving school, pierced nose, DMs and all that. All the jobs I had for the first decade at least were full of dreads, tattoos, piercings and shaved parts of heads. Because I worked in the non-profit housing world where that was comme il faut.

I actually think it does the opposite of what authorities think. Religion in schools makes children atheist and uniform makes them non-conformist.

When men having short hair is a relatively normal hairstyle then I don't see how they can enforce this. What about kids who think I play a lot of sport/swim/don't like the hassle of doing my hair in the morning so I'll shave it.

I bet there's some teachers with it. It's a socially acceptable style I can't believe that they can enforce a rule when there's so many logical and sensible reasons to have it short.

It's a Conor McGregor haircut. Just like all the wee beards you like and think are cute.

In fact it's hilarious the snobbery on here. In the UK there's a serious split in education. In Northern Ireland the results always beat Blighty by a country mile. Always. Yet here, especially in Catholic schools which are the schools that outdo every other school, the haircut police doesn't really exist.

I went to a top Catholic school here and so does my son and there's next to no hairstyle regulation. Then over the water kids are being let down terribly but all I hear is how short some wee guys hair is.

Why us shit even important to You?

What a crock of shit! Another reason I'm glad I moved to Australia. Almost every school here has strict, can only be purchased from the school uniform shop uniform. Thankfully they don't have arbitrary rules regarding personal appearance.

At my eldest sons academically selective school, where last year, 100% of the students who applied to university got their first choice of both uni and course, the students can be seen sporting long hair, super short hair, graduated cuts, all colours (dyed) and styles, facial piercings etc. The school ranks 13th highest in the state, and is the only state run school in the top 20, the rest are fee paying.

So I absolutely disagree that schools with hairstyle rules perform better.

Fwiw, although I do like uniform, there is not a chance that it prevents bullying based on poverty. The poor kids who end up with uniform from the school second hand store are all faded, marked, tattered. Their 'white' socks are grey and their black generic shoes are scuffed through at the toe. Yes, they are wearing identical clothes to everyone else, just about five years older, usually worn by at least two other people and often not clean.

OP, I don't see why your son should spend time in isolation when their stupid rule wasn't even properly specified.

Ragusa One way or another part of the controlled system, job slaves.

Went to a top performing comp in the 1980s. We were even setted in sixth form.
No uniform.
No tears.
No missed lessons.
No riots.

If he is sent home op - can you get time if and go on a cheap holiday? After all they can't fine you!

Always. Yet here, especially in Catholic schools which are the schools that outdo every other school, the haircut police doesn't really exist.

The Catholic schools children here are the most badly behaved, from rife bullying in the primary to outright fights with other schools on the walk home. They also had to draft a new head in after their results and reputation were going down the pan very quickly.

I wouldn't send my children there if you paid me.

I wasn't aware that never wearing school uniform made me less academic! I did manage two degrees though (but have no idea how to tie a tie)!

to outright fights with other schools on the walk home

To clarify. That is the secondary school I'm talking about there, not the primary one.

This made me laugh

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-41284833

A school which made headlines over its crackdown on uniforms and discipline in a bid to improve academic results has seen a dramatic drop in GCSE results.

Dozens of pupils at Hartsdown Academy in Margate, Kent, were sent home last year for wearing the wrong uniform.

At the time, new head teacher Matthew Tate said the school had been underperforming and uniforms led to better behaviour and grades.

The school's GCSE pass rate for 2016-17 was 13% lower than the previous year.

but have no idea how to tie a tie)!

Clip-ons are a godsend!

I'm in favour of a smart school uniform and a smart appearance for school. I think it should be strictly enforced.

However, I think the type of haircut the OP's son has isn't in the least bit extreme. For me, a shaven head with zig zags, tattoos, or dreadlocks is extreme.

The school are being ridiculous and I would take this further.

A lot of the boys in my DCs school have skin fades, they look very clean and smart. DS is six and has a no1 on the sides, if he had a no3 I'd be in the hairdressers every week as his hair grows so fast!!
One little boy in his class has the beginnings of dreadlocks (his mum has full on dreads). It doesn't affect any aspect of their learning or how they are seen.

I didn't know that fade cut was trendy.
I just thought there'd been an outbreak of super nits at secondary

Has anyone ever done a proper study to prove a link between a strict uniform and high academic achievement? I haven't heard of one.
My secondary school was in the top 5 for exam results in the country in the 80s. We were all smartly turned out but I wouldn't say that caused the good exam results. Pupils looked smart because they cared about school and came from supportive families who cared. That's what's got the good exam results.
All my dcs go to schools wear the staff quibble over minor stuff. It just creates conflict and wastes time. My ds once ripped his last pair of trousers which conformed to their rules. This was on a Thursday. I sent him to school with black jeans and a note explaining I'd get proper trousers at the weekend. They still placed him in isolation despite this being the first time he'd not met their standards. He was in year 10 so missed valuable learning. Pettiness like that actually makes pupils respect the school less.