AIBU to think that M&S shouldn't be selling modesty shorts.

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Knickers cover bottoms. Are knickers now so unseemly that girls need to wear a second layer in case A MAN should see a glimpse of white elasticated pants? Are they fuck.

Don't buy them.

I agree with your sentiments and it's an unbelievably shitty name for them but I think if you are teaching young kids about keeping their pants private to protect them then young girls might feel more comfortable cartwheeling around in these.
We just used to wear our PE shorts mind...

If no-one buys them they won't sell them.

They're brilliant for show-offs like me who do gymnastics when drunk and prefer for the world not to see my wobbly arse

What exactly is the problem OP?

I don't see the issue:
They aren't saying girls MUST wear them and they cover up to age 16.
I would not have felt comfortable wearing a skirt without shorts or thick tights from about 12+, it was for my comfort not anybody else's and I did not want anybody to see my underwear male or female if it could be avoided. I wore similar and I'm no spring chicken (retired).

Why shouldn't they? Where does it say on the packaging that they're to prevent men from looking at your butt? 🤔

You realise a lot of girls wear them under sporting uniforms right?

When I was young we all wore them for netball and tennis and anything else where skirts were pretty standard, because believe it or not most young girls don't want to flash their briefs and half their ass to their peers every time they jump or lunge.

Men didn't come into it, there were never any men about for netball and we still wore them.

I agree.

I understand why they're on sale. I understand why parents buy them.

But I detest and deplore the underlying causes.

Also, it doesn't even state they are for girls...?

Can't see the problem...

When I was at school we had to wear gym knickers (which we all wore over our normal knickers). I think this is pretty reasonable if you're going to be doing things that show your underwear, like hanging upside down from a climbing frame. It's not necessarily teaching that sexual predators are everywhere, just that in our society, we don't normally let other people see our underwear.

It's a bad name. My dd has them. For netball. It's a regulation of her club. And possibly all of them, I'm not sure.

I cant make up my mind on this.
On the one hand, yes of course knickers should be enough, but on the other, boys don't have pants that can easily be flashed, so I understand that girls may not want that either.

There's obviously a market for them, they've sold out in two age groups. - the cartwheeling age group I suspect.

They're sold in the girls underwear sections as being perfect for wearing under skirts and dresses. They're not sold as sportswear.

And yes, we wore (horrible, horrible) gym knickers until tiny netball skirts. In high school. Nobody was telling us to cover our knickers at 6.

I don't like the name, but.............. I am thinking, they might be useful, to sleep in.

I think coming right out and calling them modesty shorts is a bit of a marketing fail. They're just screaming out for people to get pissed off at the concept that has been much discussed on here already.

As a concept, they're fine. I can see lots of people buying them for the same reason they buy skorts. Cosy, comfortable and useful.

I do feel that by dressing girls and boys differently at school - skirts instead of trousers, flimsy Mary Janes instead of sturdy boots - Clarks, I'm looking at you - we are already teaching girls that they should be less active than boys, and behave "modestly" and appropriately.

"Modesty" shorts will not address this. Unisex, practical school uniforms/dress codes that encourage/permit unrestricted movement and running around would, though.

I think theyre a great idea! I used to wear something similar, cycling shorts, under short skirts. Made me feel a lot more confident - no fear of my knickers being on show due to a gust of wind or similar, and i could sit cross-legged with confidence. I often feel that girls look quite vulnerable and exposed tumbling around the park playground in their white knickers and skirts, often upside down and on full display.

Not sure what your problem with them is op?

I hate the name too.

However despite telling dd1 a million times her pants do the job

It's other peoples job not to look not hers to cover up

And repeatedly telling her she doesn't need them

She still prefers to wear shorts under her skirts and either I bought sone or I had to wash her pe shorts daily as she woukd just put them on

She does also lounge around in them, wear them to gym And sleep in them.

I don't see the problem. There's obviously a market for them.

These were just called bike shorts where I grew up and were standard wear for all little girls at school. They prevented chaffing between your thighs, stopped you underwear from coming into contact with the ground, dirt etc because cone on, that's gross and, prevent underwear exposure because underwear is not something that should be seen in public, no different to the expectation that boys wouldn't wear trousers so low that their undies wouldshow. It's a matter of practically and good presentation not modesty. The use of the word modesty to any item of clothing is objectifying and pervy.

So?
Over 20 yearsAgo i had to wear black nicker/shorty things with my pe skirt.
No difference here.

Modesty shorts is a dreadful name and concept

The retaiers should offer more of a variety of knickers, so like the boxer shorts my boys wear

So they are all just knickers so matter their shape and size

. I often feel that girls look quite vulnerable and exposed tumbling around the park playground in their white knickers and skirts, often upside down and on full display.

Seriously? Showing your pants in a playground makes you vulnerable and exposed? We're talking about small children here. Doing what small children have always done in playgrounds.

i like a nice modestypant ....woman of my age in a shortish frock...just in case of falling when drunk or a rash and hasty bend over in a brisk breeze, or a heaveho-hoist out of the back of a small two door car.

if I could cartwheel in them I would!

it's not like they are compulsory...i just cannot get het up over choices.

They used to be called gymslips or blues at my school, nothing new. But can't stand the me.