In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?

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....aand we're expecting a dirty, unfair fight.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3015872-Trump-yes-we-have-no-Steve-Bannon

Them gays got a lot to answer for. Or are these Jewish storms?

I'm hoping - just hoping - that 45 has a Damascene conversion to the perils of climate/change as a result of these events. (Informed, as appropriate, by some hard cold $ calculations: I doubt he'll notice the human misery.)

Hope all is well Seneca and for everyone in the path. Talking of climate change, we have just been warned that south east Australia is heading for a summer of potentially catastrophic fires.

Sorry to hear that Saffron.

All we need now is a plague of locusts...

Trump is having a go at so many people that I'm surprised more stuff isn't coming out on him from people who he's had a go at and who can get dirt on him.

How did your SIL get on, saffron?

A CNN Money opinion piece.

Trump not pro-business

It really feels like sentiment is turning against Trump.

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Trump's decision on DACA is the ugliest and most cruel decision ever made by a president of the U.S. in the modern history of this country.

You know in the Handmaid's tale when there's a sudden change in the law affecting women.

And women wonder why they didn't flee earlier?

I wonder how many people are leaving the USA before it's too late.

Thanks cosie . SiL is doing ok. Feeling a bit guilty as her house was not flooded and she has many friends who were. DH is off to US next week and will stay with her for a few days.
Australian prime minister having a phone call with Trump today re North Korea. Hope it goes better than their last call!

'Survivor guilt', I guess. (Of a sort.) I'm glad she was OK though.

Thanks, all. We are prepped and ready to shelter in place or to evacuate, as the need arises. Long lines and waits at the gas stations and at the grocery store, but I am glad that people are taking this seriously. I've lived in Florida for 40 years so I am familiar with the precautions. We do have a lot of people who have moved here recently and never been though this, but they seem to be listening, too. We haven't had one this big in a long time.

Irma looks horrific I hope you stay safe Seneca, and everyone in its path.
The DACA decision is just awful. My son wasn't born in this country, and if he was told to go back he would struggle unbelievably. He doesn't speak the language much, doesn't know the culture, it just seems inhumane. I'm hoping against hope that it will be replaced with something equally inclusive but.. it's hard to hope, isn't it.

Love this photo but argh. The situation is so cruel.

And in more pre-apocalyptic news - www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-05/fema-is-almost-out-of-money-as-hurricane-irma-threatens-florida

Remind me. How much was 45 seeking to remove from the FEMA budget in 2018?

cozie re Afghanistan, if only people listened! I'm sure if the human race ever expires, we'll leave behind a huge carved tablet reading

"Never get involved in a land war in Asia.
Or Afghanistan.
Never invade Russia in the winter,
Don't poke angry North Korean dictators with tweets.
(Also, watch out for the drop bears.)"

This Guardian article just made me

Good to see you again, Seneca, but not good to know you're potentially in the line of Irma.

All very best, will be thinking of you.

saffron, thanks for the update about your SIL, I'd been wondering how she was.

www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/08/30/house-republicans-spending-bill-includes-fema-cuts-fund-trump-border-wall/VSf07WfdiwyhOFOoOKZ7pL/story.html

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-agencies-respond-to-storm-some-face-cuts-under-trump-budget-proposal/2017/08/29/0fbbd6ca-8cc8-11e7-84c0-02cc069f2c37_story.html?utm_term=.f3051c6c3bef

Here's a couple of articles about the FEMA cuts, cozie. Gotta find the money to build that wall, doncha know!

cozie the BBC provides the strangest answer to the question of who said that about Afghanistan ...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26483320

I'm 'guessing' that the Harvey relief funding - pray that it doesn't have to include Irma - will be linked with some Wall funding in the congressional approval?

Macmillan??

I'm sure that it was before his tenure. Still..............

cozie, it wouldn't surprise me in the least! As a matter of fact, I expect to see the GOP try to hide Wall funding in just about every possible bill they can. The dems are going to have to go over every single line with a fine toothed comb!