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In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?

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TheClaws · 04/09/2017 08:30

....aand we're expecting a dirty, unfair fight.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3015872-Trump-yes-we-have-no-Steve-Bannon

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/09/2017 17:42

How Russia quietly undercuts sanctions intended to stop North Korea’s nuclear program

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/how-russia-quietly-undercuts-sanctions-intended-to-stop-north-koreas-nuclear-program/2017/09/11/f963867e-93e4-11e7-8754-d478688d23b4_story.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/09/2017 17:43

Russia revelations spark demands for new media regulations

www.axios.com/russia-revelations-spark-media-regulation-buzz-2484142989.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/09/2017 17:46

RT CLAIMS ITS ASSOCIATES ASKED TO REGISTER AS FOREIGN AGENTS IN U.S.

www.newsweek.com/rt-russia-today-spies-foreign-agents-registration-act-sputnik-trump-mike-flynn-663094?amp=1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/09/2017 17:48

Russian politician says on live TV that Russia stole U.S. presidency

www.axios.com/russian-politician-says-russia-stole-u-s-presidency-on-live-tv-2484056561.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twsocialshare&utm_campaign=organic

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/09/2017 17:53

Russia Sought A Broad Reset With Trump, Secret Document Shows

www.buzzfeed.com/johnhudson/russia-sought-a-broad-reset-with-trump-secret-document-shows?bftwnews&utm_term=.lseQldxR8#.fg271n08R

lionheart · 12/09/2017 19:48

BREAKING: This is what Putin paid for—and yes, Trump's "cybersecurity task force" was part of the two leaders' plot.

2/ "Other negative things" alluded to—as the breaking news informs us—Trump's plan to normalize relations with Russia without preconditions.

3/ This news is HUGE. That "joint cybersecurity task force" no one understood or agreed with but Trump? That was STEP ONE of a "grand plan."

4/ Putin's timeline got pushed back from April to July because of... well, because of JIM COMEY, actually. Take a sec and think about that.

5/ This underscores how very stupid the president is. He proposed an INSANE IDEA that had come from Putin and did it expecting NO blow-back.

cozietoesie · 12/09/2017 19:49

As reported by the Beast, borrowing from the WSJ.

The lawyers wanted Kushner out

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/09/2017 19:55

Evan Rosenfeld
Evan Rosenfeld @Evan_Rosenfeld
BREAKING: Trump, on North Korea, says sanctions are 'nothing compared to what ultimately will have to happen'. via

orlantina · 12/09/2017 20:29

What bothers me is that no one in the UK is really talking about the Russians and Brexit.

I have no doubt there was Russian influence at play. A weakened Europe is great for Russia.

If I was going to influence opinion, then social media is the way to do it. Nudge nudge, post on forums, fake news, propaganda, repeated negative messages. TBF, the media in the UK are just as bad but was there Russian influence?

Trump is for 8 years. Brexit is for life.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/09/2017 20:31

lion your weather misposts were very funny Grin

Justanotherlurker · 12/09/2017 20:55

What bothers me is that no one in the UK is really talking about the Russians and Brexit.

Probably because anyone who isn't partisan has had some introspection , by all means look for the scapegoat but the elephant in the room isn't the Russians.

PerkingFaintly · 12/09/2017 21:04

That's rather cryptic, Justanotherlurker. Could you expand a bit and say what you mean?

badbadhusky · 12/09/2017 21:06

I took it to mean that it is more likely that hoards of xenophobic/racist Brits voted for Brexit - or were easily swayed, if there was influence.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/09/2017 21:07

orlantina it worries me and I talk about it to all of the two people who humour me but still

PerkingFaintly · 12/09/2017 21:15

I prefer it when a poster spells out what they mean, so I can respond to that, rather than to a whole host of imagined possible meanings.

I'm sure Justanotherlurker can be clear.

Justanotherlurker · 12/09/2017 21:22

I took it to mean that it is more likely that hoards of xenophobic/racist Brits voted for Brexit - or were easily swayed, if there was influence.

Clear non partisan introspection at full play, I bet you think everyone else is fooled by the "evil right wing" media as well.

PerkingFaintly · 12/09/2017 21:24

So, Justanotherlurker, can you tell us what you actually mean, so we can respond to that?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 12/09/2017 21:57
Hmm Alex Jones Now Says Donald Trump Is Being Covertly Drugged

Jones: Multiple people tell me “they believe that they are putting a slow sedative that they’re building up that’s also addictive in his Diet Cokes and in his iced tea and that the president by 6 or 7 at night is basically slurring his words and is drugged”
www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/09/11/alex-jones-sources-tell-me-trump-being-covertly-drugged-and-now-slurring-his-words-6-or-7-pm-each/217904

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59b7d93de4b031cc65cca681

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 12/09/2017 22:11

The Hill
The Hill @thehill
Judge suspended for wearing "Make America Great Again" hat in court
thehill.com/homenews/news/350266-canadian-judge-who-wore-make-america-great-again-hat-to-be-suspended?amp

cozietoesie · 12/09/2017 22:16

Oh Boy, NorthWest.

lionheart · 12/09/2017 22:35

OYBBK That's multi-tasking for you. Smile

The judge should go somewhere quiet and away from people.

Anybody planning to read Hillary's book? I want to but am loathe to revisit election night.

cozietoesie · 12/09/2017 22:40

I guess Mr Mueller's people are just finishing for the night now. Smile

TheNorthWestPawsage · 12/09/2017 22:45

Sleep tight, Bob! Wink

TheNorthWestPawsage · 12/09/2017 22:47

Ivanka Trump had breakfast with Janet Yellen as the president considered the Fed chair's renomination

www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-ivanka-trump-and-fed-chairwoman-janet-1505133035-htmlstory.html