In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?

[TheClaws]

....aand we're expecting a dirty, unfair fight.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3015872-Trump-yes-we-have-no-Steve-Bannon

Too outraged to spell correctly

Caroline O.‏ @RVAwonk 20m20 minutes ago

Russian 'fake news' may have reached almost 30% of the entire U.S. adult population during the 2016 election.

...on Facebook alone.

Nostalgia.

secondnexus.com/social/joe-biden-schools-betsy-devos-announces-roll-back-campus-sexual-assault-protections/?utm_content=inf_677_1164_2&tse_id=INF_40be197094ae11e7aba2ffcf7683ccd7

m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/7/1696864/-Leaked-DOJ-memo-recommends-making-rape-victims-sexual-history-fair-play-in-campus-hearings?detail=facebook

Limbaugh is the worst sort of evil. How many lives may be lost because of his assertions?

Rachel Maddow MSNBC @maddow
Russian state media again gets word of Trump mtg w/Russian ambassador, but not US media. Not on POTUS pub schedule.

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1BJ259

Yashar Ali 🐘 @yashar
WAPO Exclusive: Mueller has told the WH that he will be interviewing Priebus, Hicks, Spicer, among other top aides

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/spicer-priebus-hicks-among-six-current-and-former-trump-aides-mueller-has-expressed-interest-in-interviewing-for-russia-probe/2017/09/08/3b32779e-949a-11e7-aace-04b862b2b3f3_story.html

The hypocrisy of limbaugh and the disregard for other people's lives is horrifying

Document details scrapped deal for Trump Tower Moscow

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/08/politics/document-trump-tower-moscow/index.html

Good, good, good Pain.

A mountain to climb here.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/8/16263710/fox-news-presidential-vote-study

Amy Siskind
Amy Siskind @Amy_Siskind
Slightly buried is Mueller plans to speak with Raffel, who works closely with Kushner, AND possibly Trump family members. Everyone in now.

Thanks, Pain.

"I was received by President Trump, I presented my credentials. For my part I said that we are looking forward to an improvement in the relations between our two countries," Tass news agency quoted the ambassador, Anatoly Antonov, as saying.

"President Trump received me in a warm and friendly way ... The atmosphere was very genial, constructive and welcoming. At least, that was my personal feeling," Russia's RIA news agency quoted Antonov as saying.

"We, together with his colleagues, his staff, agreed to continue our cooperation."

"I said that I look forward to working with the U.S government in the area of Russian-American mutual interests. And I said that, as far as Russia is concerned, we are ready to do that, we're ready to take concrete steps."

Does anyone else think the ambassador is gleefully incriminating this administration as much as possible?

Trickle.

www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-wants-to-talk-to-hope-hicks-over-misleading-russia-statement

It has come to something when conservatives will pick a fight over the fucking weather.
Its fairly fundamental.
I don't get it. When Limbaugh is proved wrong, what will his supporters think? Will they just forget and time in the next day for the next 2 minute hate.
Psychologically it's fascinating

Hicks will have her legal advice funded.

Vaughn Sterling @vplus
BREAKING: #Irma is now expected to be category 5 hurricane with sustained winds of 160 mph when it hits the Florida Keys on Sunday

lion's link to the Vox.com piece about Fox channel and its influence on voting is both fascinating and worrying.

They estimate that if Fox News hadn't existed, the Republican presidential candidate’s share of the two-party vote would have been 3.59 points lower in 2004 and 6.34 points lower in 2008.

For context, that would've made John Kerry the 2004 popular vote winner, and turned Barack Obama's 2008 victory into a landslide where he got 60 percent of the two-party vote.

My initial reaction would have been that Fox were preaching to the both the wiling to be and the already converted but as someone who admits to being guilty of getting tired of scrolling through endless buttons asking 'what number is 'xxxx' channel in Smallville, Somewherestate?' I can see how viewers can randomly land on Fox News and don't bother to change the channel through sheer laziness if it has a lower listings number.

What’s more, it doesn't appear that cable or satellite TV providers make channel position decisions based on local politics; they don't lower Fox News' channel number in conservative towns or countries or raise it in liberal cities. So people in areas where Fox News has a low channel number watch more of the channel for reasons that are basically random, and unrelated to the viewer’s personal politics. That makes channel positioning a bit like a randomized experiment: Some people are randomly provoked to watch more Fox News than others, enabling researchers to see what effect watching Fox had on them.

We (humans) really are a shallow lot aren't we?

Seeing it all down like

Maybe the optimism wasn't so misplaced this morning

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/09/08/the-case-for-trump-russia-collusion-were-getting-very-very-close/

Seeing it all down at once like that

Pain Noaa have it coming in as a Cat 4 but either way it's awful. The worst will hopefully miss Miami. Unfortunately a friend of mine is in the direct expected landfall site.

Have they evacuated do you know?

Hope they are safely away OhYou.

www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/donald-trump-jr-attempts-to-explain-that-russia-meeting?mbid=social_twitter

Best wishes for your friend, OYBBK.