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In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?

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TheClaws · 04/09/2017 08:30

....aand we're expecting a dirty, unfair fight.

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3015872-Trump-yes-we-have-no-Steve-Bannon

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Mirador · 09/09/2017 02:25

Thank you all for keeping these threads going, it really has been a very long year so far. My thoughts also to everyone in the paths of the frightening weather and earthquake.

Thought I'd drop this here for a bit of welcome relief and a bit of 'If only'

Former president of Mexico Vicente Fox is Running for President of the United States:

P.S. Call me cynical but does anyone else think Trump saw Randy Rainbow's latest song (DACA Shame) and thought 'fuck it, these Republicans get me the worst ratings, maybe I'll do better with the Democrats'?

TheClaws · 09/09/2017 05:13

JΞSŦΞR ✪ ΔCŦUΔL³³º¹‏ @th3j35t3r 2m2 minutes ago
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#FLASH - Int'l Seismological Center reports a Mb 6.5 seismic event at 03:30UTC @ #NorthKorea's nuclear test site >> www.isc.ac.uk/cgi-bin/web-db-v4?event_id=610963277&out_format=IMS1.0&request=COMPREHENSIVE

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TheClaws · 09/09/2017 05:17

Note: I'm not seeing this NK earthquake reported anywhere else yet.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/09/2017 06:07

Hope your friends are ok oybbk

The Hill
The Hill @thehill
JUST IN: US stops surveillance of ISIS convoy at request of Russia hill.cm/0z1BWL6

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/09/2017 06:18

DOJ Sides With Baker Who Refused To Make Same-Sex Wedding Cake

The ACLU calls the Justice Department’s unsolicited brief on a same-sex wedding cake case facing the Supreme Court “shocking, even for this administration.”

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59b30abbe4b0dfaafcf80854/amp?utm_hp_ref=relationships

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/09/2017 06:22

Eric Geller
Eric Geller @ericgeller
BREAKING: Virginia election office asks state board to decertify insecure touchscreen voting machines:

www.politico.com/story/2017/09/08/virginia-election-machines-hacking-target-242492

Cybersecurity experts consider these touchscreen devices — known as direct-recording electronic, or DRE, voting machines — to be dangerous because they do not produce paper records of votes that can be compared with their electronic tallies, thus making it impossible to detect tampering. External attachments can create paper backups, but Virginia’s machines lack them.

Cortés told the board that in a security review of the machines prepared for the election office, Virginia’s IT agency concluded that “the potential for loss of vote is significant” because of the lack of paper audit trails.

Twenty-two Virginia voting localities — including counties and independent cities — use the machines, according to Cortés’ memo.

“Those remaining localities really need to switch to a system where we have some sort of backup that can be used in case there’s any question,” Cortés told POLITICO in an interview.

[rest of thread mobile.twitter.com/ericgeller/status/906199587509198848 ]

Matt Scharfstein🇺🇸
Matt Scharfstein🇺🇸 @MattAsherS
This is something you are going to hear more about. The voting machines aren't secure & some rigging likely occurred in '16.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/09/2017 06:23

Brian Klaas
Brian Klaas @brianklaas
This should be replicated nationwide. Paper ballots are far superior for election security. Machines with no paper trail are unacceptable.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/09/2017 06:46

Is there any truth to this oybbk?

@HurricaneData
Yet another tropical wave has formed off Africa coast. If it organizes into a storm would be named Lee.

In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/09/2017 06:55

mirador I think he was desperate to make a deal, any deal, and pelosi/schumer knew it and used it to their advantage.

Hopefully now he's had a taste of positive feedback he'll continue to make good choice (I know this is a potus and not a five year old but look how he's treating people he falling out with! uk.businessinsider.com/trump-mad-at-gary-cohn-charlottesville-john-kelly-2017-9?r=US&IR=T )

Mirador · 09/09/2017 07:44

Pain I agree, and reading/watching various sources about his comments, it's always about ratings, nothing else seems to matter.

As for those storms, earthquakes and the possible earthquake TheClaws mentions re: NK, I've finally reached the point of there just are no more words my brain can come up with other than sheer horror and thinking, 'they just can't take anymore, someone make all this stop'

orlantina · 09/09/2017 08:28

Psychologically it's fascinating

Oh yes - the ability just to ignore someone's mistakes because of how much you believe in them.

Some people could lose their livelihoods to Trump but still believe he cares for them. And believe what he says.

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2017 08:51

www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/health/environment/tampa-bay-climate-change/?utm_term=.77e0f632c5d0
This was written in July about the impact of a direct hurricane hit on Tampa Bay.

It goes into some of the politics relating to climate change that have happened planning.

Trump was keen with Harvey to not repeat Bush's mistakes with Katrina because of how damaging to his presidency.

Irma is a different kettle of fish and that type of disaster might be inevitable regardless of where it hits directly because of the sheer scale of the storm and how prone to flooding areas already are.

Evacuation plans are not necessarily going well. There is concern that lessons from the evacuation of Houston for Hurricane Rita a few years ago have not been heeded. The evacuation may have saved lives but it also led to deaths. Plus geography makes it even harder to get out of Florida by road. People are aware of this and whilst many have evacuated many consider the choice - if they can afford it - potentially risky too.

Irma is going to be BAD wherever it hits. I'm not sure the full scale of it really is understood in the UK yet. A cat 5 direct on Tampa is projected to be far worse than the effects of Katrina. It's starting to look like the worst possible scenario could happen.

RedToothBrush · 09/09/2017 09:09

Oh and evacuation shelter + DACA = recipe to add to problems.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/09/2017 09:35

Faisal Islam @faisalislam
When US Govt tried to physically stop hurricanes... and why nuking a hurricane would be bad

www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C4.html
www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/09/2017 09:40

WaPo drawing parallels between the inability to live up to promises between Brexit and trump

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/all-the-worst-lies-about-brexit-are-about-to-be-revealed/2017/09/08/4bf9d43a-9410-11e7-8754-d478688d23b4_story.html?utm_term=.fa4d9369d442

TheNorthWestPawsage · 09/09/2017 09:40

My DH has close friends and a small number of extended family members in Fort Lauderdale and Miami areas - approximately 13 miles from coast. The 2 couples in the Fort Lauderdale area have made the decision to stay put and the Miami relations have gone to Atlanta but that now seems to be a place that will be affected to some degree as well!
DH thinks they are mad as all were able (financially and physically) to relocate to safer places. Now it's too late and they are hunkered down but it's the aftermath that concerns me - infrastructure potentially gone for an unknown time.

As a side note - DH read that advice to people in area included putting valuables in the dishwasher as they are waterproof!
Alternatively - pack dishwasher with ice and put extra food in there for same reason.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/09/2017 10:03

I read that it was being promoted as a good tip north but actually wasn't a great idea.

www.snopes.com/dishwasher-hurricane/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

TheNorthWestPawsage · 09/09/2017 10:14

Thanks Pain! I've just forwarded that article on to DH - he's sending it to his friends in FL.
I must say I was a bit Hmm about it but didn't have enough 'white goods' expertise to opine!

OhYouBadBadKitten · 09/09/2017 10:38

I've been updating the Hurricane thread in weather with the latest forecast. I'm deeply concerned about Tampa Bay now and a friend who lives south of there. She's a seasoned hurricane veteran but this is something different.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 09/09/2017 12:57

As long as the US doesn't retaliate with a giant portrait of His Trumpness!

Giant portrait of toddler peers over US-Mexico border wall
www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/09/giant-portrait-of-toddler-peers-over-us-mexico-border-wall?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

lionheart · 09/09/2017 16:10

That's cool.

Here's something on KJ-u.

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/08/in-the-court-of-kim-jong-un-ruthless-bellicose-despot-not-mad

lionheart · 09/09/2017 17:03

Jon Cooper‏Verified account @joncoopertweets 13h13 hours ago
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I think all would agree English-challenged "Rosemary" is the worst Russian bot ever. I spit out my covfefe reading her profile.😂

In the dim corner, we have Trump! In the dictator corner, we have Kim! Or is that mixed up?
badbadhusky · 09/09/2017 17:08

Keeping it classy, RosemaryBot. Grin

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