To be fed up of Instamums 2

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It really isn't a mum bashing thread, there are plenty of those on the internet and this isn't one of them. No one has questioned why 'x' wasn't correctly strapped into their car seat ect its mainly been a discussion about inadvertent advertising. I've followed SV for years as her son is a similar age to mine and although I've not always agreed with her I have really enjoyed her account. I though the way she carried on yesterday in her stories and continues today is very disappointing and I've unfollowed. Was also very disappointed to see CH comment, very nasty.

You know what, I'm out. I know I haven't said anything nasty on this thread and have only spoken of how I feel about children's privacy - I haven't even spoken of the advertising I don't think.
All over Instagram now is a witch hunt for mumsnetters and they think they are better than us?
A woman has just poured her heart out on OnlyGirlInTheHouse post in reaction to this, defending MN and the bloggers and because she hasn't agreed with Susie/Only girl/Pukka etc, only girl has completely ignored her post and answered all the ones arse licking her. Which I think is just a bit shit as it's clear this person was trying to engage with her.
Just goes to show the cliqueyness again.

Once you're used to the adoration, it must be hard not to see any kind of negative feedback as a massive insult

This comment sums up both of these threads and the insta response to them perfectly.

God I follow insta accounts for various reasons mostly for light relief like I would read a mag. They definitely have a place in my life.

But to think they shouldn't be discussed at all. It's just madness. The whole 'just unfollow thing' is just crap.

Like just turn the TV program off! Put the newspaper in the bin! Trash the magazine! But don't discuss!

*Give over.
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If it's out there - it's out there. That's what thousands of followers does!
It's really not 'personal ' any more. It's really not ' just me telling my story' . There are other implications. That is why sponsored content needs to be highlighted now. Duh.

This is new territory and the rules are very blurry. The legalities, ad rules, tax implications, blah blah might all adapt in years to come. I bet they do.

Incidentally when it's a discussion about the issues why is labelled 'bitchy' 'snipey' when it's a criticism. It's just a criticism.

Aren't a lot of us here Mums, mnetters and Instagrammers,. It's just a cop out to shout "mum bashing" .

As for OnlyGirl ignoring the mn defending post and lapping up everyone else, that doesn't surprise me at all.

This thread is called Am I Being Unreasonable to be fed up of Instamums, whether individually people take comments to be unkind or bitchy actually all of the comments have centred around people's feelings around Instagram accounts, that is the discussion and it will therefore invoke comments that are not all positive, in fact it will definitely attract 'you know what really annoys me....' but that doesn't mean it's not valid in any way. It is kind of odd to feel a bit manipulated by people you follow and when you feel their motives may not be as they first seem. Going from filming your crazy time with your kids, to staging a funny ad with your kids is a massive leap.

The onlygirl describes Instagram as her 'safe place.' It reeks of mini dictatorship. Everyone follows your rules, censorship galore and you can pedal your crap to an unquestioning, fawning audience. I'd rather stay over here thanks. Where everyone has a say and you might not like it but thank god we can discuss stuff. #freethemummy #democracy

Themumonamission is at it in stories now.

This has got so nasty, the instamums seem to be painfully defensive. Most of the comments on this and the preceding thread are a discussion as opposed to a bitchfest. They're making it a bitch fest. I think mumsnet is great, I also follow a few of the accounts mentioned here. I'm amazed at the turn this has taken!

Mother Pukka has dealt with this perfectly.

This appeared in my FB feed this morning (please note: I would never follow Jeff Brazier )

It made me laugh because it was quite apposite in light of this thread, and it's also a great example of really really unsubtle, unimaginative, lowest common denominator advertising

As for OnlyGirl ignoring the mn defending post and lapping up everyone else, that doesn't surprise me at all.

Oh the irony of her posting 'talk to the girl, not about her.'

'Talk to the girl and unless you're giving me a good arselicking, I shall pretend you haven't spoken. Here endeth the lesson'.

Was also very disappointed to see CH comment, very nasty

Has she? I'm shocked.

.......Not really. She loathes this place. Absolutely loathes it.

HeyRoly love it!

I love the unmumsy mum more now. She hasn't liked posts or engaged at all.

Only a matter of time now before Daily Fail pick up these threads and run a headline like "internet mums turn against instagram mums" and all the many DM readers pile in with comments about how awful the forum is and how dreadful women are

So many people are missing the point completely. I really don't think anyone should be posting about it on Instagram unless they have actually sat and read the whole thread. It just makes them look daft.

This has all turned very sad.
I can see it must be quite upsetting for the people involved to read this criticism but when you cross the line between being an instagrammer and being a 'social influencer'(marketer, advertiser, brand ambassador, it's essentially the same thing) I think you have to take a step back and not take it so personally.
We could all sit here and moan about the annoying persil advert on telly and no one would expect the ad agency to throw up an impassioned rant calling us vitriolic bitches.

Wonder what the husbands and partners make of all this? And having their kids and homes made public too

Chick: that's so true!! I'm imagining the CEO from persil making a stories on Instagram saying 'fuck you vipers if you don't like our powder jog on bitches.'

'Some people need to fuck off back to the swamp with the other donkeys' pretty strong words!

It's now going to be Chinese whispers though isn't it? There is going to be a wave of them jumping in saying "mum bashing is against what we stand for" when actually that isn't what we are doing. But one person will read it, post about it, then the next etc, and actually it becomes a whole "sisterhood" movement, with no one actually reading the whole thread and discussions, or reacting to any of the issues or questions raised.

Maybe the title didn't help.

I think the people taking offence about this thread really aren't reading it, the conversation isn't bitching about mums it's about trying to explore the content and advertising situation which is relatively new to everyone.
I think it must be tough to be one of the instamums mentioned but they provide a context to the discussion e.g. People saying they like Pukka because of her campaign and most people have said they like MOD for her midwife content but are uncomfortable with her quantity of selling posts. You have to mention names so people have a common understanding of the point being discussed.

If I was any of these instagrams stars I'd be reading this and reflecting on what people are saying, it's a new phenomenon and if they want to remain successfully making money from it they are getting free feedback about how to remain relevant.

Remaking relevant is important if they are now treating it as a job....whether you agree with that or not is another issue- which I think is also being discussed.

Maybe the FOD as Richard Madely in Lycra didn't help...but I still laugh at that description.

I honestly thought the Miele machines were purchased by MoD, didn't see any thank you Miele hashtags.

It's a relatively short shelf life I suppose, I've always said it would be hard to turn down lovely freebies.

These threads have made me look at some Instagrammers differently and I'm afraid the oD's do appear to be the biggest beneficiaries of free stuff based on their ability to sell their family image to the highest or most generous bidder.

Good luck to them , it won't last forever.

So they promote companies?

Which ones?

Be a bit of a turn if we in turn had threads running doing our own critique of every single ad/spin they are given to do

At least we would be honest not gushing!

What has been really stated clearly is that most mums love seeing photos and stories about other families. That's a fairly positive message to me, and simply sugggesting that life isn't always as positive as shown in the pictures isn't bullying it's stating something that is common sense!

I stand by the FoD/Richard Madeley comment.