To be fed up of Instamums 2

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hahaha I meant a hell of a lot not helmet

Ugh, this place is vile towards mums, it really is.

Is it? Really odd post that seems to just be trying to start an argument. Some of the posts on Instagram are far bitchier than anything on here, there have been many vile and vitriolic comments. On here I've not seen many. It just seems it's unacceptable for anyone to question anything a 'mum' does.

You do know "mums" are not one homogenous mass right

Did I say they were? Way to spectacularly miss what I actually said, unless that was deliberate.

perfectlyunperfectmum
Which is why so many have been spoken very highly of and supported in these pages, and no doubt received many new follows.

Is it

Yeah, it, is, and no, I'm not "after an argument."
It's called having a differing viewpoint. Are we not allowed them anymore?

Perfect and cakeandpie most on here really enjoy the whole insta thing and are probably some of your followers!

Good on you for doing your thing and making money. Go for it.

The discussion has been a lot about people who aren't transparent with ads and sponsorship and child exposure and wether the whole discussion should just exist anyway.

Irriadiated this is a great place for different view points.

Well you post implies that no, no one is allowed a different viewpoint. We must commend any mum for trying to make her own money regardless of how it's done. There are a great many instagrammers out there both male and female who have great accounts and therefore many followers. There is allowed to be discussion about them.

Yes- to be clear, I follow most of these instamums and I enjoy them. I won't be unfollowing anytime soon. I just think the discussion of advertising and influencers is an interesting one and where I hoped this thread would remain.

I'm getting really into instagram now. 😁

A "few people" have messaged Susie Verrill (who is obviously far too busy to be reading this thread of course) and picked up on one of my earlier comments with the #predicted #response. I'm #famous.

The outrage is hilarious. And what's all this unequivocal support and allegiance that is being demanded? It's perfectly acceptable and legitimate to debate child safety issues and advertising transparency. It's like Donald Trump doing Instagram

Mamas. They're all Mamas don't forget.

I've just joined mumsnet! I've been dual reading here and on insta being a follower of Susie. I'm totally childree and happily so; an athletics fan and a social media fan which is how I came to follow her (basically via her old man). I have an interest in mumlandia because my friends are mums and it's such an integral part of so much female experience that I'd like to be able to chat about that with them. So I'm learning where I can.

Plus, on a purely steaky beak level, it's just pretty fascinating - so stylised - even the worts an all bits seem pretty artificial (shot of bathroom door to illustrate no peeing in peace - is that phone never put down then)?

It's interesting to see where making your buck off your kids will lead to. How long does it go on for? 18?

Anyway Insta commentary has been way harsher than any ill advised comments made here I think. Why women always get accused of jealousy when they're not totally on board with something has always baffled me. It seems so old fashioned - this is stuff my mum and aunt stay (in their 70, think women's lib is the pits - all that).

Thank you, I never read the first thread. So I can completely understand why people would want they're to be more transparent about ads etc. I think valid points for missed as from what I heard there was some " mum bashing" I think that took away from a valid discussion

I would not recommend any of my clients work with Susie Verrill after her response to this thread

Indeed. Her response was shameful.

These two threads (aside from the ridiculous cute kid comment), IMHO, have been a damn sight gentler than usual AIBU.

Yes, it's been slightly prickly at times but also immensely valid and enlightening for me.

Totally agree re the body positivity thing! MOD shared a picture of herself in a bikini, with a totally flat stretch mark free tummy and size 10 figure saying that her husband loved her body even though it wasn't what it was and she's done no exercise since having her twins.

Fuck me, if that's what my body looked like post baby after no exercise and guzzling wine and chocolate I'd be ecstatic.

And it was so disingenuous because OF COURSE she knows she's got a great body, of course she knows that she's not doing anything to promote body positivity amongst normal bodied mums of babies and toddlers and seven year olds , more likely she's helping to make them feel completely inadequate by posting photos of her fabulous figure and pretending she thinks she's fat. And of course, the post was followed by a million fawning comments about how stunning and brave she was, hun.

*If you fancy proper body positivity tap up>>

www.instagram.com/fullerfigurefullerbust/

www.instagram.com/archedeyebrow/

www.instagram.com/daniellevanier

Plus size absolute babes who've inspired me both in terms of clothes and thinking and in terms of getting my arms out (I am a small fat in the parlance but key thing is I am far from high street shaped due to massive bazookas). Bikini body chat is not welcome in this realm. It's about all bodies being valuable and worth it as they are.

*this is not a paid advert and perhaps you're all already woke to this movement but I am evangelical about #effyourbeautystandards

thewintergirl

I don't agree with you. To you she might have a great body but maybe SHE doesn't think so. I'm not a huge fan of her but you don't know what she thinks about herself

Simpatica I agree with you on this. I remember a while back her posting a bikini photo and hercalso talking about size 14 dresses etc. She has a perfectly lovely figure but at the time it was not 'a perfect 10) and I do not mean that in an at all judgy way, she looked great but I imagine that was not an easy thing to do. She is very careful how she dresses herself and may well feel not body confident.

mumsy

You're right. I looked at her and thought she looked like a normal woman, healthy with curves, hips and boobs. Just overwhelmingly normal.

I think she and her husband have sold out massively but when it comes to her body and how she perceives it, well that should not be up for discussion

OK, I see your point simpatica and mumsy, but it did very much smack of the annoying girls at school who would whine that they were SO FAT when everyone could clearly see they were not. It just doesn't ring true from someone as attention seeking and media savvy as her. But perhaps you're right, who am I to say how she feels about her body. Fair enough.

I can't believe this thread is still going, I really think the best comments have already been said and discussed and the main themes seem to be about exposure of children online and transparency of ads and freebies.

But now you're ripping apart a woman who is clearly not a size 10, never mentioned the fat word and wanted to show her followers that it's normal to have a curves,lumps,bumps and cellulite post babies. I felt empowered by her photo as it helped me to feel normal about my body post baby.

I'm beginning to feel like this is becoming a witch hunt about MOD, she hasn't even said anything in IG about this thread, she hasn't said anything negative about Mumsnet in fact her feed seems to be pretty cherry as a whole. She did a Mumsnet interview earlier this year which was really interesting and engaging.

Imagine if she's read this, I hope she hasn't because she must be feeling pretty humiliated and sad by her entire exsistsnce being torn apart by women who have never even met her or know her!

I'm glad to see on the previous thread that she was spoken highly of her profession, but really don't you think it's time to shut this thread down now?

Another body positive person who actually is inspiring is Vintage or tacky. She is properly plus size too. She does YouTube videos modelling plus size swimwear and everything. And I always feel inspired and elevated after one, even though I'm not her size. She's flipping fantastic and I lurrrve her.

I found MODs bikini body posts refreshing. Am so used to seeing size zero models with breast enhancements on insta. MOD looked great (espcially after 4 kids), but also normal and lumpy and a bit bumpy like a lot of other mums.

It's the potentially misleading advertising she does that I'm starting to feel let down by. Not her bikini posts.

Dolores thank you for the BoPo Instagram recommendations, they're gorgeous and their styles are amazing.

This is the first time I've ever posted on here after having read through a few threads on here over the years. I've followed this story with interest, and in all honesty still am a follower of SV. And contrary to the (quite patronising) opinion on here that i can't possibly have read all of it if I disagree with any of you...I have read every single page.

Some of the points made here have been very valid, particularly re. advertising etc...although hardly the main point throughout the first thread, and if it was intended to be so, it got lost. But now this one is descending into the same nasty territory as the first one which drew such criticism in the first place (rightly so in places)!

If this is truly a discussion about the complicated realm of instagram advertising then keep it that way. Posts about how boring, self-absorbed or seeking validation these women are is not relevant. Neither is nasty discussion of body shapes, sizes or the unknown intentions behind posting bikini pics. All this does is feed the opinion that this is a nasty, woman-bashing thread and takes away all of he credibility of the discussion.

And...it's just not nice.

Swell, OvariesBeforeBrovaries (great name)! There's some great style out there and some brilliant women forcing change through for those of us the high-street just isn't catering to anymore.