Should I have rang non-emergency police. DS1 verbally attacked.

[TwoMummyPigs]

I took DS1 (12) and DS2 (11) to get their school shoes yesterday. We got on the bus and downstairs was busy so went to sit upstairs. We sit at the very back, with my partner.

Two stops later there was a bang on the side of the bus as it pulled up to the stop. I thought someone had been hit as there was shouting. Turns out this young girl had ran at the bus and hit the doors. She was about 12/13 and with a friend of about 14/15 and a boy of the same age.

A few minutes later they come upstairs and are visibly dissapointed that we are at the back.

This girl is SO loud and mouthy. She dramatically runs up the aisle and plonks her self down on the last seat before ours.
She is shouting about how she had stormed out after hitting her dad and screaming at her friend about 'not being allowed to fucking talk!' She was awful. Everyone on the bus were exchanging glances.

Now my sons don't go places without me. They are very polite and reserved.

My DS was sat behind her, facing my gf as the seats at the back face each other.

Whilst she is hollering and shouting my DS and GF are talking about something completely unrelated and DS laughs.
Next thing I know this girl gets up, comes round the seat and leans down into DS and starts shouting "what the fuck are you laighing about?? You know nothing about my life. Who the fuck do you think you are?"

I leaned forwards and put my hand against her shoulder (not pushing her just creating a barrier) and told her to back off and leave him alone.

She then turns on me. She put her face literally ab INCH away from mine and started the same shit with me. My gf stood up and told her to basically piss off and she had brass balls and carried on shouting.

She storms off and sits halfway down the bus and starts shouting about 'people listening into her private conversations'

So I say 'no body wanted to listen to your drama love but you were screaming loud enough for the whole bus to hear and he wasn't laughing at you!"

The bus driver came up and made them go downstairs (the older girl was just laughing the whole time but the older boy did try to control the littler one) He didn't even kick them off the bus!

DS said he was ok but he looked a little shaken and they did say on the way back he hoped she wasn't on the bus home.

Should I have done more? Complained to the driver? Called 101? She was so aggressive and out of order.

No I didn't say that at all. All calls will be input into the command and control centre however most of the time that is exactly where that info will stay if it is for logging purposes. If there are offences etc then the process will progress to where it is most appropriate.

So the bus driver who was verbally abused on his bus...that passenger has had his image circulated from CCTV. How is that different?

You mean the one in which the person hurled racist insults and hit him?

"And walking logging is not the magical system that mumsnetters seem to think it is. It doesn't marry up unrelated incidents and the info quite often goes no where as it is not a police matter."

Be careful, it may appear that some police officers don't take these things as seriously as they should.

walking What are you talking about?

This girl threatened to smash the OP's sons face in........

What are you talking about.

What do you want the call handlers to do? Oh guys, there's been an argument on a bus, all hands on deck here ladies and gents, lets trawl through the hundreds and thousands of other logs we have had to see if there's any connections!

You know very well what I'm talking about Nicky. The police have faced many investigations and criticism for not investigating incidents sufficiently. If the OP felt victimised than surely the police should take that seriously?? Isn't public confidence in the police a wider issue of this thread?

Yes and the op would be quite within her rights to report that in my humble opinion. But that's not what I was discussing with you, that incident would be dealt with.

I'm disputing this impression that we would randomly look for unrelated incidents for no apparent reason on the off chance we got a description. Investigations have to be proportionate, where do you draw the line?

A girl shouts at the op's son, would you expect a media release, reconstruction, hours of cctv to be downloaded and viewed, SOC attendance just to name a few investigatory options. It has to be proportionate.

I didn't know what you were meaning at all apparent from the implication that I didn't take what happened to the op son seriously. No where did I say that at all, you must be confusing me with someone else.

Some internet GF is arguing about police procedure.....with a police officer!

It's hilarious.

You should have filmed her and asked her if she wanted to go viral

So in your professional opinion, the OP would be justified in reporting this incident to the police?

Oh you are interested in my opinion now lol?

Yes, I would like some clarification from a professional standpoint. Particularly as the OP has faced such ridicule from some posters.

This girl threatened to smash the OP's sons face in......

You mean this was drip fed to us after people said it shouldn't be reported to the police, because that isn't in the OP.

Drip fed? Or still shook up from incident?

I do find the blatent victim blaming on thus thread very worrying.

If I was a police officer I would have no issue in dealing with it to the furthest extent I could.

I mean if I was the cop sent to it!

Drip fed? Or still shook up from incident?

Given the level of detail in the OP I can guarantee a threat, which is the most serious of all the verbal altercation, would have been something you'd have mentioned first if it had actually happened.

But no obviously OP manages to remember her witty response better than the fact someone apparently said 'do u know who i am i'll smash ur face in', like a typical TV bully.

Well I think we have our answer.....the OP would be justified about reporting the incident (the point of post).

And then there's been a whole load of other stuff said, some crimes are more serious than others, verbal assault isn't all that serious, people can behave any old way they want, the police may or not investigate, and lots of other stuff....brain far too frazzled to put into logical order!

Hey, I'm just one opinion out of 100+. Would I personally report this if I was the op? Nope but professionally I would deal with it as I am paid to do.

Although thankfully I don't deal with this type of thing anymore so easy for me to say!

Nicky said she would to her fully extent if she was sent to it. The issue is she would not be sent to it. OP would get a courtesy call at the most, maybe a chat if she lives in the back of beyond in a low crime area. Anyone can ring 101 and report something, OP is free to do so. The point is it's pointless and a waste of police time.

Titanz Thats pretty much spot on. Although as a cop I wouldn't say it's a waste of time as that would be unprofessional of me!

My brother's a police officer nicknacky so I get to hear the lovely ins and outs of the modern day struggles and politics of the force

@NickTheCop Could she have filmed her as a way to get her to back off?