Reach your kids some fucking consideration! [ranty]

[someonestolemynick]

This has been inspired by the mummy who let her two charming kids scoot around Tesco. But it also goes out to the geniuses who keep their little darlings watch Peppa Pig on the bus or the pub. The parent who doesn't think it necessary to teach their kids that the appropriate response to bumping into another human is to apologise.
I have noticed this more and more: children (being children) act loud, entitled or aggressive and the accompanying adult smiles indulgently rather than correcting behaviour that infringes on others.

Ianbu

I must live in a really well behaved area as I never see kids scooting round supermarkets or barging into people. I live in a touristy seaside town which is bursting at the seams at the moment and went to see a firework display on the seafront last week. The kids were all having a great time and I didn't see any bad behaviour. Maybe I'm just oblivious.

I worry about the adults these children will become.
They turn into my neighbour who thinks that waking the neighbours at 2am with her drunken shouting is acceptable.

Much noisier are the adults having conversations at full volume. DD has often complained that she can't hear her tablet above them.

Of course the adults are noisier and having conversations - that's the point of them being there! If your kid can't hear her tablet, try my earlier suggestion of using headphones.

A friend of mine told me that, a few days ago, her son who has physical mobility problems (some days he can walk and other days he has pain) was having a bad day and couldn't walk without assistance.

He was in his disability pushchair at a park but obviously couldn't go on much. He went on the roundabout in his pushchair. Then his sister (also disabled) had a go on the big, grey disability swing.

Next to her was a little girl on the black, standard swing. My friend says to her little girl "off you get, it's your brother's turn". A woman standing next to her says "sorry, my daughter's next, she's waiting". My friend can't see a child waiting so asks where the child is. She's already on the black swing!!!

The woman expected my friend's son to wait to use the disabled swing while her daughter jumped off one swing and had a go on the other. My friend's son couldn't use the standard swing that day as his leg needed the support that the grey swing DID give.

The woman argued that it wasn't a disabled swing as it didn't say so. It was extra large, with a high back and a harness so must have been a disabled swing. The woman must have seen that the boy was in a disabled buggy.

I was really shocked that my friend had to try to reason with the woman and that the woman didn't willingly accept that, as her daughter was already on a swing, that my friend's disabled son should get priority on the disabled swing!

What is the world coming to when people are so self-centred.

You're used to it, so I can pretty much guarantee you'll be tuning it out while everyone around you suffers. Not everyone. I've honestly never heard kids watching PeppaPig, or anything else, loudly. I have seen them in restaurants watching things with the volume on low and I couldn't hear it or could just hear a low murmur and mine are grown up and I'm not used to it.

I recently had a parent and son skateboarding around the airport!!

Really, astonished at some of the posts on here. Gretchen's story is outrageous. Of course the child didn't mean to harm her- but had she been properly supervised or, dare I say, socialised this would not have happened.

And Loyalt if you choose to ignore being bled into and if you can block out tinny videos, good for you but if your child is loud and obnoxious in public you are doing them a disservice. You may think ot' s cute at 5 - at 25 it won't be.

I saw a kid on Heelies going through the airport last year, including round the duty free shops. I was so pleased I was in a wheelchair so I didn't have to dive out of the way like the rest of the people, including some elderly and frail. I couldn't believe the parents were so stupid as to allow it.

A few years ago we went to Cape Verde and a family had brought their scooters with them. . The kids used to scoot in and out between the sun loungers, close to the edge of the pool, pissing everyone off.

My dd has sensory issues too and this is exactly why people who consider them necessary for their dc should have a bit of consideration for others.

Use headphones, it's so incredibly selfish not to.

And Loyalty if you choose to ignore being bled into and if you can block out tinny videos, good for you but if your child is loud and obnoxious in public you are doing them a disservice. You may think ot' s cute at 5 - at 25 it won't be

That doesn't really apply to me as my child knows how to behave himself and I've never been in he position where he has acted out of place in public, that is the reason why I don't care about how other people's children wish to behave.

Yanbu, I've noticed an increase in obvious entitled and passive smug parenting too.

Breeding is not exclusive you know, most people can (unfortunately) reproduce but really act as if their child is a unique creation.

I can't stand rude, unruly, bratty children and rude parents.

That bitch who abused the 86 year old Gran in Asda would have got the trolley rammed straight into her if it were me, how bloody awful of her. Little brat should have been made to apologise and be punished for misbehaving with the trolley too.

I wouldn't take anything @loyalty says seriously. They often just come on threads to goad for a reaction. Sad.

Surprised there's not much entitled defending going on, to be honest ... there was a discussion recently where a poster basically said her judgement trumped everything - including rules and regulations - so it was OK for her PFB to do what they liked

@propertingz - Excuse me? You must have me mixed up with someone else! I have been on this site for a long time and one thing I am not is "goady" and I've never ever been called it by anyone else on this site - I just think you've taken a dislike to me for some reason, that's why you are choosing to call me out like this, I think you are actually the sad one for trying to single me out like this... if it makes you feel better, bigger, happier... continue doing it.

Yanbu

My children scoot everywhere outdoors, but always dismount as soon as we cross the threshold of a building. I've found most supermarket security guards are happy to watch scooters for you if you park them just inside the door.

I'm wondering about the "children wandering around cafes / restaurants" thing though. In our local cafe we try encourage our children to go up to the counter and ask for what they want themselves (the staff all know us), and the 6 year old actively resists being accompanied to the loo. So if you glanced up from your coffee you might interpret them as "wandering unsupervised" when actually they're moving around with a purpose.

Loyalty, again good for you. I object to being bumped into and expect other people to use some common sense. It makes life more pleasant for others.

I don't like antisocial behaviour either.

But I also cannot stand the attitude that 'everyone's much worse these days. Literally every generation has been saying that since the dawn of time!

I've been a teacher for many years. Every year, without fail, the sixth formers and year 11s complain about how bratty and disrespectful the new year 7s are, and how they were meek, respectful creatures when they were year 7s - despite the fact that they were exactly the same.

@propertingz - Also funny how this is your third post on this site
@someonestolemynick - Sorry if I offended you in any way, I was just adding my opinion.

Pengggwn the swing that was described is designed for children with sn who can't manage a standard swing. It is not a nest type swing.

I've never seen a child on heeles in a supermarket before but I have in a large shopping mall and that was bad enough.

I do wish lots of the shops would show some backbone and stick up signs saying that no heeles,skates,scooters(toy one's not motability one's) ect are allowed in the store and if anyone is found to be using them will be asked made to leave the shop.I know they think they'll loose customers but actually they're loosing customers because of behaviours like that in the first place!

The same should go for every shop,shopping mall,cafe/restaurant/Dr's surgery/opticions/Dentists any of the places that the select parents decide that they no longer need to parent they're child there should be a sign up that if you or anyone with you is behaving in a way that could cause danger to somebody else or could damage the surrounds you will be asked to leave!

I know you shouldn't have to tell grown adults how to behave and you shouldn't have to remind a parent to parent but it just seems to be getting worse and worse as each year passes.

And before someone says you can't do that because a child could be disabled I have 3DC that are disabled and as hard as it is for us as a family if one of our 5DC behaviour(disabled or not) was going to negatively effect everyone else we'd have to leave that place and we'd make that decision ourselfves we wouldn't have to wait for someone to tell us but sadly not everyone thinks of other people and how they may be effecting them.

If other people's children's behaviour effects you when you are out, perhaps you should stay home. There has been times when I've been out and seen other people's children act out of place and I just choose to ignore it as I am in a public place.

Victim blaming there.

Peng - it was most definitely an accessible swing for disabled youngsters. She showed me a picture. You can buy them on disability aid websites. My friend said that the wording on the swing when her daughter hopped off said something like "to buy a special harness, phone this number" but there was already a harness on there.
The swings for babies/toddlers were on the next set of swings along.