To be frustrated by the misunderstanding of the honorific 'Ms' ?

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Inspired by another thread.

I've come across many people who believe that 'Ms' is the honorific for a divorced woman, rather than the female equivalent of 'Mr'. People including several employers, managers, supervisors etc, plus friends and family who I'd normally regard as clued up. And many of them women.

I do welcome the introduction of the term 'Mx' as a title to be used when gender is irrelevant [almost always!] but I fear that Mx will go the same way - people will interpret it as a title for someone who is [for example] transgender.

What say you, MN massive?

How would you define a radical feminist Bonkers? Cos I'm definitely a Ms and am worried now that I need to up my feminist game to continue using it.

Or are all feminists radical by definition? In which case, phew.

Did I mention relations? I meant anyone I knew, actually. I think it, I don't say it.

And I'd still bristle at someone who was admitting to feeling disappointed at women not taking their husband's name. And I think the same about this.

Mx is pronounced miks or muks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mx_(title)

Oh and...I think there is a place for titles. I wouldn't appreciate my bank/insurance provider/whatever chummily addressing me 'Dear Chink' in a letter.

Incidentally, where it's irrelevant in an online form I usually tick 'other' and put 'Brigadier' or 'Commodore'.

I've avoided the Mrs/Miss/Ms conundrum by getting a PhD.

Helpful, I know.

Maybe you could self identify as Mr. That should sort it.

The British obsession with Titles

Maybe people should try that when booking rooms and plane flights. See what happens.

I honestly thought that Ms was no longer a thing.

I can't say I'm bothered. I'm more interested in whether to take up Boots on their offer to title my DCs 'HRH' when booking their sight test online

indulgentberries

Do it.

Where I work all women are automatically Ms unless they change it themselves which very few do despite most being married. I did change my surname when I got married but use Ms at work (too laxy/unbothered) and a combination of Mrs Married Name and Miss Unmarried Name otherwise as I haven't gotten around to changing everything after over three years.

'You can only be Ms if you're divorced' - in the post office, re passport. No, you are both completely wrong, I said. Their faces

I get very angry whenreferred to as Mizz

Why? Do you feel being married to a man is an achievement that everyone should be aware of?

Sorry I always saw the title ms as an acronym for 'I have something to hide about my past life'. Am a lot more accepting now as it has become more widespread to use. Still loathe it when people address letters to me using ms. Rather no title at all if people do not know my correct one.

I hate being given the Ms. label. It's often stuck there when it's ambiguous, like my account with the local garage etc. I'm Miss Wrenika, and when I marry, I will be Mrs Wrenika. I intend to keep my name cause there's nobody else in my branch of the family to carry it forward. But I loathe being labelled Ms. To me it has connotations of a certain type of female, and I'm not that type of female.

Ms implies radical feminist/lesbian - I get very angry when addressed as a 'Mizz'.

I'm torn between wanting to laugh and being worried that you're actually being serious. You are joking, aren't you?

I've never been addressed as Ms and don't know anyone who goes by it so didn't think it was very common? Most people are either Miss or Mrs.

I was happy to be a Miss before I was married, now happy to be a Mrs because I love being married. If I was divorced I'd keep my title as Mrs, as lots of women do. Some women still wear a wedding ring after divorce as it gives a "taken" sign to men. Not sure if I would do the same but it's a common thing with my divorced friends.

I have never heard of Ms being for divorced women. I didn't know that was a common misconception.

Or should I say, msconception. hahahahha

I've been divorced for nearly 20 years and am still Mrs
If people call me Ms that doesn't bother me either

I don't really care what other people perceive Ms to mean. The fact is that it is marriage status neutral and that is all that matters to me. I think more if not all women should insist on using it, then the world should eventually get it..

I've been divorced for nearly 20 years and am still Mrs

What surname do you use?

Your birth surname or your ex husband's surname?

I am a Ms because I am married but kept my maiden name. No longer a miss but not a Mrs either!!

To me it has connotations of a certain type of female, and I'm not that type of female.. I'm assuming you mean the type that has a vagina, as that is all Ms implies. That's kind of the whole point of it.

I really do not see the point in titles, if I ever have to use one I use Miss despite being a divorcee

It's interesting that people have said they would get angry/upset at being called Ms. I can't think of a title I would be angry or upset about getting. Even if I was called Mr! I'd just say no it's Ms actually. Why the anger?