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To think Brigitte Macron is a pedophile

347 replies

INFP · 26/08/2017 02:12

Apologies if this subject has been done before. But I came across an article where Brigitte Macron describes her love affair with her then 15 year old pupil where she goes on to say "when we became lovers is our secret".

AIBU to think this woman is a pedophile?

She actively groomed her FIFTEEN year old pupil. How is she different to Jeremy Forrest who was jailed for having a relationship with his pupil?

It is beyond disgusting.

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Inkanta · 26/08/2017 17:46

'I don't care what she is called. What she did is all kinds of wrong.'

Yes exactly!

sunglassally · 26/08/2017 17:48

Gaelle.

Well that puts a different perspective on things and no wonder you are a bit demented by the Macron situation. But you didn't say this. And BTW I do know the Macron/Brigitte story very well. I just don't think anyone in France cares much TBH. If they did he would not ever be President.

Sorry that happened to your child. Was your child male or female. I am sorry to ask.

I know France very well. They leave relationships and bedroom stuff private, as they do a lot of things. Well you know this already.

EmpressoftheMundane · 26/08/2017 17:49

I'm not too impressed with Brigitte either. I think what she did was selfish and wrong.

Gaelle1 · 26/08/2017 17:51

sunglassally, you really need to choose your words better. 'demented' is hardly an appropriate term.

Papafran · 26/08/2017 17:54

Well that puts a different perspective on things and no wonder you are a bit demented by the Macron situation

Nice. 'a bit demented'. Is English your first language Sunglassally because that sounds pretty horrible to say to a mum whose teenager has been groomed. Of course she is going to find it very distasteful as do most decent-thinking people who realise that having a sexual relationship with a child who is less than half your age and when you are in a position of trust is very wrong indeed.

sunglassally · 26/08/2017 17:54

Empress,

It may not have been all her decision either, takes two to tango!

I said it before, but I wonder why her family/husband/ex did not object or report all this at the time or since.

They didn't, the children of Brigitte are all friendly with Macron (if you believe what you read), and they have all moved on.

Some people just love gossip and want to see the downfall from their judgmental perches.

Take it from me, the only issue is Macron's ratings in France. His private life will have nothing to do with it, and indeed it is not allowed to report that on a privacy basis there.

BabychamSocialist · 26/08/2017 17:56

Meh, it's France. They're much more laissez-faire over there about things and I can't imagine he'd be allowed to be elected if his wife had actually done something illegal like that.

Papafran · 26/08/2017 17:56

I said it before, but I wonder why her family/husband/ex did not object or report all this at the time or since

That does not mean it was not wrong. Maybe the father of her children thought that reporting his wife would get her into trouble, lose her her job and cause heartache to his children. Who knows? It does not mean that this is a totally normal situation or that everyone in France thinks it is.

Papafran · 26/08/2017 17:57

I can't imagine he'd be allowed to be elected if his wife had actually done something illegal like that

Why not? It's hardly his fault is it? His wife was not standing for election.

thesleepystorm · 26/08/2017 17:58

I think it's gross. Yes I would say that if the sexes were reversed.

sunglassally · 26/08/2017 17:59

Papafran,

I take your insult about my language skills (not!)

If you read back you will see that I was referring to the fact that pp did not reveal the issue about her child, but continued to rant at me.

But that's OK, I can take anything that comes down the tracks. It is called being measured and intelligent about sources.

Drip feeding information is all well and good, but it should be stated from the start so responders know what the situation is.

Gaelle1 · 26/08/2017 18:00

sunglasslly, "It may not have been all her decision either, takes two to tango!"

That's up to par with pedophiles. They blame the child and take no responsibility.

There was a similar incident that happened at that time in France and the woman teacher was reported by the boys parents. The woman killed herself. Perhaps, his parents were worried BM would kill herself? She probably would have.

How do you know that her 2 older children didn't have a problem with it? Just because they are there now does not mean that they were not and are not affected by it.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 26/08/2017 18:01

Oh for goodness sake post after post saying that it would be a different story if the sexes were reversed

On what evidence are people basing that, loads of posts on here saying that she is an abuser etc as well as posts blethering on about true love

Exactly the same thing happens the other way round or would in the same circumstances

And its not hypocrisy if its different posters saying it

Gaelle1 · 26/08/2017 18:02

sunglassally, drip-feeding? didn't realise I had to report to you my entire life. make sure that you know that you are in parent website. somehow I doubt that.

sunglassally · 26/08/2017 18:05

Gaelle,

How do you know they are NOT happy with it.

It's all ok now. Nothing will happen. France and the French do not care about sex no matter where or when really.

Sorry about your child, I can see why you are upset. Was anyone arrested, jailed or whatever in that case. It must have been awful for you and family.

Did it happen in France just to ask.

Papafran · 26/08/2017 18:05

I take your insult about my language skills

Erm, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt in case you did not know how offensive the word 'demented' is. But, OK.

BabychamSocialist · 26/08/2017 18:14

Papafran

Most politicians try to keep their private life as uncontroversial as possible. Look at all the trouble Hillary Clinton had because of Bill, or Tony Blair had with Cherie, all because her friend's boyfriend was a former conman.

My point was that if Macron thought there was anything untoward about his relationship (or if those around him thought that) he wouldn't put himself in the spotlight under such intense scrutiny. France just isn't interested in his private life, clearly.

Gaelle1 · 26/08/2017 18:16

sunglassally, "How do I know they are not happy?" Because, BM said so in one interview. She said that it has caused her children a lot of pain.

Nevertheless, she proceeded with what she wanted as she cannot envision living the rest of her life without the boy.

Yes of course. We are French so it happened in France. Yes our abuser was judged guilty.

I can just imagine similar cases that are pending right now in France. Perhaps these are some of the letters that BM is receiving? "Mme. Macron, I am being tried for the same thing you did. It would be immensely helpful if I can get an 'attestation' from you that everything is magical and will be alright so the prosecutor and judges will get off my back.".

sunglassally · 26/08/2017 18:16

Macron's ratings in the polls are of far more interest to the French than anything else.

It is only the foreign (non French) press that is talking about the age difference.

BTW she has lovely slim legs. You cannot get them from plastic surgery.

Gaelle1 · 26/08/2017 18:19

BabychamSocialist, As a french I can tell you that we voted for him - not for his abnormal private life. And yes, one would be dumb not to consider him the 'victim' here, willing or not. We also do not have a first lady.

Inkanta · 26/08/2017 18:20

Agree she has legs to die for!

sunglassally · 26/08/2017 18:22

Gaelle,

I am sorry for the crime on your child.

Awful.

But no crime was reported re Macron and B was there, from anyone, school, pupils, husband, family anyone.

TimeafterTimeafterTime · 26/08/2017 18:26

BM is gorgeous and looks so vibrant and engaged with life. Then look at Trump's younger wife - she always looks so tense and nervous around him. I know who I think the abusive one is.

INFP · 26/08/2017 18:27

Macron's popularity nose diving is not surprising since he gave the impression of having left wing ideals when in fact he is revealing himself to be a pretty hard core elitist with capitalist views.

What with the recent revelation of his ridiculously expensive make-up bill, he is increasingly coming across as a confused narcissist with a Lady Macbeth wife who groomed this child into where he is today.

These two people are the official and unofficial leaders of France.

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Gaelle1 · 26/08/2017 18:29

sunglassly, "but no crime was reported"

You make people sound like a broken record which makes me think that you truly have a side agenda. There are plenty of crimes that have not been reported but it does not mean that they didn't happen.