To think they should just ban nuts on all flights

[Ijustwantaquietlife]

Just reading this and it's heartbreaking, seems like such a simple change to ban nuts on all flights to help protect people.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

I've heard several people on mn saying they've been on flights where they were banned, seams to make sense as nut allergies are so widespread to just ban all together imo.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

*unless any of the above I mentioned has a severe allergy to that particular food

While I totally agree with banning nuts on an aircraft as a risk reduction,

I am still waiting patiently for evidence that a peanut or a bit of peanut dust will kill anyone on a plane.

Anyone with peer reviewed evidence for this?

I haven't read anything or seen anything about this threat to life on a plane yet. But I am sure someone will tell me about it.

Just look at Flightradar.com and tell me that of all the planes in the air at one time all over the world the threat from a peanut is life threatening. I doubt it.

We would have heard before now. The girl who has devasting repercussions from peanut allergy actually ingested the food OUTSIDE the plane in a restaurant. Remember that. Awful for her, but it wasn't on a plane, and she ate the food, different to smelling or being beside someone eating peanut products on a plane.

Woops. Planes are enclosed, peanut dust will kill you.

Yes, sorry for allergy sufferers, but does a ban on an aircraft solve the problem? It doesn't. Does it? Be honest now.

There's been a huge amount of honesty on here.

The vast majority of people are smart and compassionate enough to see that.

A few keyboard warriors are a bit desperate to get a reaction.

Meh.

BeAlert,

To whom are you referring thanks.

AFAIS most people are in favour of a ban on peanut sales on planes as I am, it is a no brainer really.

Some, myself included have questioned whether a ban will work fully or not, I think that is a fair comment.

So maybe I am a keyboard warrior. Thanks.

As I said, it's great they keep popping up, they're doing a great job at showing why a ban is needed. Incredibly helpful in raising awareness, and mixed in with all the educated responses, this is a really good thread to raise awareness.

4691

BeAlert
Personally I support the end of sales / free peanuts on planes - because its an easily dealt with risk (and those tiny packs of salted peanuts are grim anyway - I did not eat them when I flew BOAC and PanAm)

And I would always try to be polite to the passengers around me if they asked

But NOTHING I have seen on this thread, or in the story that started it in any way supports a "ban".
Banning things rarely ends up with the desired result unless those enforcing the ban eg smoking will personally benefit.

Look at all these planes in the sky right now, I am sure they are all peanut allergy terrified.

www.flightradar24.com/18.28,-40.83/3

I'm astonished that so many posters are protesting this eminently sensible idea and would rather fight for the right to scoff some nuts than allow a fellow human being to travel without dying. Gosh there are some awful folks walking amongst us.

As I said. it's great they keep popping up, they're doing a fantastic job raising awareness of why a ban is needed with each post.
*ElliotBoy I know, it's astonishing really, isn't it, there's a huge sense of entitlement running through the thread.

469

Can you quote a post from your arrogant judgmental perch that said they would like to see someone die from a peanut allergy on a plane.

Well I didn't anyway. But I think you need to move on from here, it is becoming an obsession with you along with the awful castigation of others who might have a slightly different view to your own. Along with awfully bad language and vitriol.

That's your problem. You have not argued your point successfully at all have you.

As I said, it's fantastic that they keep posting as it points more people to the earlier posts and the fact that questions have been answered already.
Such a good job at raising awareness for allergy sufferers, needs applauding really.

Hi there 469

You are far too invested in this thread. Take it from me, you need a break away now, right now.

Most people have been knowledgeable and measured.

I think you have taken a lot of things very personally. But that's ok, still not much counter argument. Did you see all those planes on Flightradar all over the world? Do you think there is a peanut allergy on every single one of them?

Just asking if a ban is warranted given the number of flights every day and night all over the world.

But your silence is telling on that one. Get back to me without expletives and we will see.

I'm astonished that so many posters are protesting this eminently sensible idea and would rather fight for the right to scoff some nuts than allow a fellow human being to travel without dying. Gosh there are some awful folks walking amongst us.

Reading this thread has been an eye opener. An allergy isn't something to laugh at, and airborne ones certainly do exist.
Some of us don't have to rely on Dr Google to tell us otherwise, we see it first hand.
Some have said if it's not on Google, there's not enough evidence. Therefore it's not happening.
Also banning nuts means we're in a Trumpian Chaos.
300 bags of nuts potentially being opened is an infinitely big risk that could easily be eliminated . Someone hypothetically eating peanut butter on toast the morning before boarding their flight not an immediate risk. The other one would be.

As I said, it's fantastic that they keep coming back, they're doing a brilliant job at keeping up awareness for allergy sufferers and the ignorance surrounding.
For those able to read the thread they'll see that all questions have already been answered.
So again, love to everyone on this thread, whether educated towards allergies or not, it's a great mix of showing why there should be a ban.

Doing a great job 4691haggis

Sorry

Should say a fucking great job

I will ask again.

Has there been a death from peanut allergy on a plane?

People who are saying that someone opening a pack of nuts is fatal should back that claim up.

Easy search - apologies for dm link.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724684/Nut-allergy-girl-went-anaphylactic-shock-plane-passenger-ignored-three-warnings-not-eat-nuts-board.html

As I said, it's great they keep coming back, it shows there's such a need for allergy awareness. Education in schools? May lead to less confusion as adults? Maybe the key.
Educate the future generation.

We were on a flight a couple of years ago and there was an announcement that there was a young girl on board with a severe nut allergy. So naturally there was some tracksuit clad chav numbskull in the seat across from us who pulled out a packet of peanuts and told the stewardess he would eat them if he wanted. She spent about four minutes trying to reason with him before DP stood up yanked the peanuts out of his hand gave them to the stewardess and told him in no uncertain terms that if he pulled any more out they would be shoved into his rectum very far indeed to put it mildly. He's not a vain man but he actually bowed to the small ripple of applause.

Ban nuts on planes.

What more do people want here? I have no issue with that whatsoever.

Interesting debate. But no answers either. Will a ban on peanut sales solve the allergic problem completely?

No one can say.

And with the alarming rise in food allergy it's going to be sadly something that is more and more common. www.foodallergy.org/file/Final-FARE-Food-Allergy-Facts-Statistics.pdf

Anaphylaxis is not funny.
snacksafely.com/2017/07/food-allergy-bullying-leads-to-death-of-13-year-old-boy-arrest-of-another/

As I said, it's great they keep coming back, despite so many posts answering questions, and directly to them and with answers to them too being answered. Doing such a great job at keeping up awareness and why there is a need for a ban.