To think they should just ban nuts on all flights

[Ijustwantaquietlife]

Just reading this and it's heartbreaking, seems like such a simple change to ban nuts on all flights to help protect people.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

I've heard several people on mn saying they've been on flights where they were banned, seams to make sense as nut allergies are so widespread to just ban all together imo.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

Evans,
Yes noses do have mucous membrane, who saidvthey didnt, but peanut butter does not release protein into the air to cross that membrane

jamy

You shoukd have seen me on our latest flight

Happily troughing M&Ms. when the announcement came through

I was all shhhiiiitttt!!!!!

But it would be impossible to ban everything people are allergic to - it's not saying that nut allergies are more important. I don't profess to know anything much about allergies but if it is a genuine concern for nut allergy sufferers then it doesn't bother me if I can't eat nuts on a plane.

So really its just a case of, if there is an announcement no nuts should be consumed (fair enough) and if not then fine ? Why isn't that understandable? That's pretty clear?

You'd think wouldn't you. A small minority think it's not fair if they don't have a bag of nuts, they should be able to have them as allergies (or should I say airborne allergies) don't exist - so if they don't get a bag of nuts we're all living in an American Trump Land and doomed to chaos.

but peanut butter does not release protein into the air to cross that membrane

We're on about packets of nuts being banned on planes. Not peanut butter sandwiches. Keep up.

I think what's great about this thread is that it's showing there really is so far a way to go for attitudes and understanding around life threatening allergies. So many people just don't understand, and have own family members giving their children food they are allergic to and having to be rushed to hospital.
It's actually good to have some of these goady posts keep popping up, as it just highlights the need for a ban more and more.

Ta1kinPeece - you didn't answer this when I asked you before so I'll ask again.

If someone sat next to you on a plane told you they were severely allergic to nuts, would you still eat them?

I am fully in favour of a ban on peanut sales on planes.

It is no hardship for anyone.

I would be concerned about those who arrive on board with peanuts, or having eaten them in the Q, or peanut butter sandwiches, food containing nuts, that kind of thing. There is no way it can be totally stopped.

Is there?

I want my toblerone - only reason to go to duty free - to buy oversized, over priced nutty chocolatey products

Ban nuts from the plane - how far will we be willing to go...

As I said, great that they keep popping up with the same reasons as to why they're not on board with a ban, as anyone reading the thread will see.
The fact that regardless of first hand experiences etc, nothing will mind change.
The need for a ban couldn't be clearer with this thread.
Some great, educational posts from people living with them and sharing their experiences for those who are lucky not to have them, and other posters doing an excellent job too on showing why a ban is needed.

Will a ban on sales of peanuts on an aircraft work?

Yes or no will do really.

As I said, doing a great job. As we all know the points being asked by certain posters have been answered multiple times, so what they're doing is a great job keeping it bumped up so newcomers can see.
Here's the link to the petition www.change.org/p/uk-parliament-ban-nuts-and-nut-products-from-airlines

Will a ban on sales of peanuts on an aircraft work?

Will it reduce the chance of my daughter having a severe reaction to peanuts while on a plane?

Yes.

Will it eliminate the chance?

No.

Is it worth doing something that might reduce the risks even if it doesn't eliminate the risks?

Yes.

I think they should just make a special NUTTERS plane for all the nut allergy sufferers to board and go on holiday together - problem solved lol
Seriously, I cannot understand WHY people find the ban concept and life threatening allergy so hard to grasp! Surely people can't be this dense....or uneducated/ unaware/ ignorant

OK let's break it down. Most people will have been breathless at one point in their lives eg. long walk/ run/ looking after kids etc Well think of that moment and imagine not being able to recover your normal breathing immediately, then put yourself high up in the sky in a tiny metal cabin away from emergency rooms and medical help! Imagine the breathlessness getting worse in a short space of time, like someone with their hands around your neck squeezing the life out of you........

BeALert
If someone sat next to you on a plane told you they were severely allergic to nuts, would you still eat them?
No, of course I would not.
So long as they agreed not to eat chocolate near me as the smell makes me retch.
Courtesy to the people directly around me has nothing to do with comments that blanket bans are stupid.

FUNM
Severe allergic reactions are horrific and can kill people.
But according to the data set of over 700,000,000 passenger journeys, none has on air planes

4691
Petitions are a waste of breath.
THey are ignored and the CAA / FAA / AIDB would use the same data set I linked to ignore it on grounds of cost.

It's great that they keep coming back and repeating the same argument over and over, as it means people who have first hand knowledge and experience instead of Dr Google knowledge can point it out again.
There might not have been any actual deaths on planes recorded yet according to Dr Google research, but there are plenty of people who have suffered anaphylactic shocks on planes. A quick Dr Google shows this as well if anyone's relying on it being on there for it to have happened in the first place.
Each reaction presents differently. You can have a severe reaction one time and not be killed, but the next reaction could be fatal.
Maybe we have to wait for an actual death to have this discussion.

4691
Would you care to share your "doctor google" links
as the one I posted directly contradicts your anecdotal assertion of but there are plenty of people who have suffered anaphylactic shocks on planes - in fact the data set shows other forms of medical emergency are significantly less uncommon.

You keep saying the same thing but with no evidence.

Here is the evidence that contradicts you
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1212052#t=article
and another article that covers how incredibly rare nut allergic reactions are on planes
waojournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40413-017-0148-1

@Ta1kinPeece - did you really just equate you feeling queasy at the smell of chocolate with a nut allergy sufferer having a life-threatening allergic reaction?? You do realise that you feeling ill, whilst unpleasant, is not going to kill you, but their nut allergy could kill them - or leave them with life-changing injuries (as the case mentioned in the OP shows)?

Some interesting and scary reading...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724684/Nut-allergy-girl-went-anaphylactic-shock-plane-passenger-ignored-three-warnings-not-eat-nuts-board.html
articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-02-11/business/ct-naperville-mom-airline-video-0207-biz-20140211_1_food-allergies-nut-allergies-passengers
I have suffered a severe anaphylactic shock and nearly died, the only reason I didn't is because i was a few miles from a hospital. I shudder to think what it must be like to experience that on a plane. However, I do remember one flight, back in the day, where most people opened their complimentary pack of nuts and I immediately had onset of asthma and spent the whole flight trying to regain my breathe and calm down. Wasn't much fun.
More awareness and even a ban would greatly reduce the risk of someone experiencing such a horrific reaction ..so it can only be a good thing.

The risk is lower if sales are banned on aircraft obviously, but it does not eliminate the risk either does it.

I totally understand that people with dairy allergies/ hay fever/ vegetarians/ vegans/ chocolate-haters etc would be extremely uncomfortable if they ate their 'poison' by mistake or someone near them was eating it but the point is mostly it is not life threatening nor could it kill you literally within minutes.

As I said, it's great that they keep coming back with the same arguments, time and time again, and know full well that the links have already been posted, but there's either a head in the sand approach going on or deliberate goading, we can make our own minds up as to which. Either or.
Doing a valuable job at showing just how much a ban on planes is needed.

but the point is mostly it is not life threatening nor could it kill you literally within minutes.

That's it, isn't it. There's a difference between allergens being cooked into foods and as a bag of nuts. The bag of nuts being a problem whereas one person eating a peanut butter sandwich the morning before they got on the plane not an immediate threat. A hundred bags being opened would be more of one though.