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To think they should just ban nuts on all flights

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Ijustwantaquietlife · 21/08/2017 15:45

Just reading this and it's heartbreaking, seems like such a simple change to ban nuts on all flights to help protect people.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

I've heard several people on mn saying they've been on flights where they were banned, seams to make sense as nut allergies are so widespread to just ban all together imo.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4809148/Former-ITV-producer-reveals-shocking-effect-nut-allergy.html

OP posts:
EvansOvalPies · 24/08/2017 10:27

I ate nuts throughout both of my pregnancies, and fed my DC peanut butter from a young age. DD is allergic to nuts, DS isn't. Both pregnancies (and young childhood) with same diet, both children now with different dietary requirements. DD gradually grew into her allergies. She became allergic from the age of eight to brazil nuts, in particular, almonds (and associated stoned fruit, like peaches and cherries etc). She was fine with hazelnuts, but then her allergy progressed and now cannot eat them.

Just dispelling the theory that if you eat nuts during pregnancy and feed your young children nuts (or any allergen), doesn't always necessarily mean they will be immune. DD didn't used to be allergic to Penicillin, but now she is. So it's not always the mother's fault, as to what they may have consumed during pregnancy.

EvansOvalPies · 24/08/2017 10:30

Thank you, JuliaCC - I have just signed.

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 11:20

Thanks for the link, Julia

Kursk · 24/08/2017 11:33

I wonder what airlines the ban would cover I assume British owned airlines

bruffin · 24/08/2017 11:44

The ignorance on this thread gets worse.
We should campaigning for education adequate cleaning/ cross contamination on planes, not something that will do little to prevent anaphylaxis on a wider scale.
Despite knowing penty of nut and seed allergy sufferers including ds and dh the anaphylaxis case in a plane with an ambulance waiting at the other end was to penicillan allergy suffer. This was probably to a cheese sandwich which may have had mould in it.
I ate nuts in both my pregnancies.
Ds 21 is alkergic to treenuts and seeds and chickpeas ( be grew out of peanut allergy) and his allergies didnt show up until he was 4.
Dd has no allergies

bruffin · 24/08/2017 11:46

That was meant to say the anaphylaxis case i know

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 24/08/2017 12:03

There are more people with allergies these days because people like me would have died before adulthood.

I am the only person in my family with a nut allergy (peanut and some tree nuts but not all - I eat some of my safe nuts every day - hope some of your wacky theories can absorb this). Neither my parents or grandparents, nor my children have a nut allergy.

This thread has become entertaining in a car crash sort of way. Turns out if me or my parents or whatever bollocks had or hadn't eaten nuts / used bleach / had jabs / been bottle fed or bf / followed a hippy lifestyle like a bon sauvage or generally been less of a fusspot my allergies wouldn't have turned up out of the blue in my early teens.

Will keep on checking this thread for more troll tripe, some of it is funny.

NannyRed · 24/08/2017 12:09

I have read the article and I agree it's very sad, but I'm torn as to why everyone (100s of people) on a flight should adapt to suit one person with an allergy, wouldn't it be easier for the allergy sufferer to avoid flying?

I'm probably going to be called a heartless bitch, but why should the majority pander to the minority when it's the minority with the problem, it's not my problem.

Should all gardens in the neighbourhood be devoid of flowers because one neighbour has dreadful hay Fever?
Should pubs stop selling booze because one alcoholic lives in town?

Sometimes people need to make their own sacrifices rather than expecting the world to accommodate their problem.

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 12:14

Should all gardens in the neighbourhood be devoid of flowers because one neighbour has dreadful hay Fever? Should pubs stop selling booze because one alcoholic lives in town?
Again, as people have said so many times before on the thread, all on ground. Not comparable at all.

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 12:17

Soupdragon (think it was Soupdragon?) needs to post her "really far away" drawing again. Smile

Luckymummy22 · 24/08/2017 12:45

No they shouldn't ban them on all flights. Or trains or any public place.

Too me this is just a step too far.

My husband went into anaphylactic shock before I met him due to a wasp sting.
We can't kill all wasps can we - if only!

peachgreen · 24/08/2017 12:45

@NannyRed You think the sacrifice of not eating nuts on a plane is equivalent to not ever being able to fly anywhere? Hmm

peachgreen · 24/08/2017 12:46

@Luckymummy22 No, we can't kill all wasps, but we can avoid deliberately enclosing your husband in a small space with wasps. It's really not that hard to understand!

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 12:48

we can avoid deliberately enclosing your husband in a small space with wasps

It's really not that hard to understand!

You'd think, wouldn't you Grin

Fresh8008 · 24/08/2017 12:49

So in relation to that petition to ban nuts + nut products, in the name of Amy May Shead. From what I read she went into a restaurant, told the chef she had a nut allergy and ordered a chicken dish that was supposedly nut free, but wasn't.

How would banning nuts on airplanes have changed this? Surely better enforcement of nut free food in restaurants is what is required here.

And I see no one has yet bothered to provide a link to any proof that 'nut dust' on airplanes can cause allergic reactions. I am starting to thinking that there is none.

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 12:49

Deliberately put husband in a tin box with a bee. Then it's comparable.

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 12:51

Oh God I've got the giggles again as "banning them all makes it all Trump and America's fault poster is back.
Absolute batshit crazy this thread.

4691IrradiatedHaggis · 24/08/2017 12:57

Or trains or any public place

Plane really, really far away high up in the sky. Far away from land by hundreds/maybe thousands of miles and help.
People on ground have hospitals and ambulances. Great inventions.

Luckymummy22 · 24/08/2017 13:00

He wasn't in a small space at the time!
I'm happy to not eat nuts if there's someone with a nut allergy nearby.
And now I probably would chose not to take nuts on board a plane.
But where does it stop?
Ban all nuts from flights?
Then what?
Ban all dairy?
Ban anything else that can cause an allergy - basically everything

Surely ensuring there is airline crew on board who can deal with this type of medical emergency is the most important thing to do.
And raising awareness rather than an outright ban.

Luckymummy22 · 24/08/2017 13:00

I was referring to an article on BBC website about banning nuts in public places!

raviolidreaming · 24/08/2017 13:01

why should the majority pander to the minority when it's the minority with the problem

Well, exactly. Let's also get rid of wheelchair access ramps, the Braille dots on lift buttons, subtitles / the signing interpreters in the bottom of the screen, in fact; any interpreters, blue badge parking, lifts and escalators...

waddleslikeapenguin · 24/08/2017 13:02

The last flight I took had the "no nuts" announcement but it was made halfheartedly while everyone was still getting seated and in English even though most people on board were speaking German and French. The little old lady across the aisle from me whipped out some cashews from her bag for her mid-morning snack nonethewiser. No one noticed. I hope they wouldn't have got narky with her if they had. If it's that much of an issue the staff need to put a bit more effort into communicating and enforcing it.

bruffin · 24/08/2017 13:05

4691HAGGIS,
Yes it is along way, but it is a long way for anyone who has anaphylaxis from an allergy and it is more likely to happen from someone eating the wrong food, or cross contamination ie my friends case above.

Fresh8008 · 24/08/2017 13:08

"The smell of peanut/nuts does not come from the peanut protein, so reactions should not occur just because you smell peanut. Allergic reactions to peanut occur mostly when the peanut enters the body, either by licking it, tasting it or eating it.

The smell of peanut should cause no allergic reactions at all, but may make a peanut allergic person feel very uncomfortable because he or she is smelling something that is distasteful and potentially dangerous if eaten. It is likely a defense mechanism to warn the peanut-allergic person to move away from the area, in case they do get into contact with the peanut accidentally."