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AIBU?

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Gilmore Girls - Dean

98 replies

MadMags · 20/08/2017 23:05

Got my dn to start watching Gilmore Girls so we've been chatting about it.

This has probably been done to death but isn't Dean just an awful, horrible character?

He's possessive, jealous, moody, emotionally black-mailing Rory constantly...

And everyone loves him and panders to him.

In one episode he phones over 20 times in like two hours! And Lorelei encourages Rory to put up with that and even pander to it!!

It actually makes for pretty horrible viewing and I have told impressionable 16 year old niece that she should run very, very far from a boy like that!

Anyway, AIBU?

*Disclaimer: I'm aware there are far more faults with the show. I am also aware that it is entirely fictional, and that I have no life!

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blankpieceofpaper · 21/08/2017 00:41

... annoying* or insert word of your choice!

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 21/08/2017 00:43

Dave was my fave in the early days but Logan is just a beautiful man. Same in the Good Wife.

Interestingly (or not) my DH hated Jess!

MadMags · 21/08/2017 00:48

Oh Jess was very beautiful in The Good Wife.

I agree, there was a definite shift in season 7, though Paris really came into her own then!

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MadMags · 21/08/2017 00:51

Logan, even!

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BertieBotts · 21/08/2017 00:54

Dean was awful and young Jess too. But grown up Jess was great and really "got" her IMO. Though she is a bit of a numpty Grin

Never liked Logan, he made my skin crawl from the start.

MadMags · 21/08/2017 00:55

Poor Logan! He's just a misunderstood little billionaire!

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steff13 · 21/08/2017 00:56

I love GG, and I will never not love it. However, on rewatch I think the the writers did an amazing job of telling us how amazing/smart/sweet Rory was without actually demonstrating it. On the show she was bratty and self-centered.

MadMags · 21/08/2017 01:00

There was a lot of fat shaming in it, too. If I'm nitpicking...

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steff13 · 21/08/2017 01:11

And homophobia. Gilmore Guys podcast even started a segment called, "Um, is this homophobic?"

BertieBotts · 21/08/2017 01:21

Logan was seriously manipulative from the start and just wanted to play her. I thought he was always treating her like a toy. He never respected her as an equal at all and always came across as hugely entitled.

BertieBotts · 21/08/2017 01:22

I think she did a bit of a "wrecking ball" on him though - in that he went in there with the intention of playing games but then ended up falling for her.

But that didn't negate the way he treated her for basically all of their relationship ever.

MadMags · 21/08/2017 01:38

It was homophobic, and a couple of disablist comments made me wince!

I think it was just TV at that time, though.

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Peachypie83 · 21/08/2017 01:50

I hated Dean. Nasty, passive aggressive, manipulator. I never understood the attraction to Jess and was Team Logan all the way until the revival and then Jess became my favourite

BertieBotts · 21/08/2017 01:54

It was certainly of its time.

BertieBotts · 21/08/2017 01:55

I think some of the Korean family jokes were a bit cringey by today's standards too TBH.

WildCherryBlossom · 21/08/2017 02:52

I never particularly liked any of Rory's boyfriends (which one was Zac?) but like a PP said, Logan made my skin crawl. I kind of forgave Dean his ineptitudes. They were so young and muddling through their first relationship. When he later cheated on his wife & slept with Rory I wanted to give them both a slapping though.

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 21/08/2017 09:29

Zac was Lane's husband

WildCherryBlossom · 21/08/2017 09:45

Oh of course. I liked him! Also fairly inept at relationships but rather lovely.

geekone · 21/08/2017 10:05

Controlling Dean
rapey Jess
Alcoholic Logan

Not a great bunch, but she is an entitled spoiled brat so hey ho.....

Btw love this showGrin

geekone · 21/08/2017 10:10

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MadMags · 21/08/2017 10:34

geek a pretty accurate summation! Grin

I just remember Dean being lauded as this wonderful, perfect, extra tall, ideal boyfriend and he's awful.

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mangomama91 · 21/08/2017 13:22

I want to join in haha
I'm team Logan for Rory!
Although his friends are a bit odd and have interesting nights out Hmm

SistersOfPercy · 21/08/2017 13:59

To be fair, I can forgive Dean anything swoon

Gilmore Girls - Dean
MadMags · 21/08/2017 14:00

I can forgive him when he's in Supernatural, but not when he's Dean!

What was Logan's Australian friend? He was funny!

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GingerAndTheBiscuits · 21/08/2017 14:27

Finn!

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