There will be no progress until we name the problem

[TinyRick]

worldnewstrust.com/there-will-be-no-progress-until-we-name-the-problem-mickey-z

AIBU to think this article should be shared far and wide?

There is a real problem with Male Violence being swept under the carpet and not addressed fully on news sites and papers.

If we don't say what it actually plainly is then we can't address the real problem.

Are black men not males? This is NOT a racial thing, it's a class thing.

Oh and Murder/rape > thieving.

And when men talk about how hurt their feelings are because women have noticed that men commit so much violence (not that women want to do anything to men, just that they've noticed) take a second to think just how fucking ridiculous that is in a world where 10 year old girl was raped repeatedly by her uncle, got pregnant, was denied an abortion and has now given birth without even knowing she was pregnant. Men's feelings are hurt??? Why should we even care?? Why are we not more angry???

"Or lets call all women thevies because statistically they commit higherv% of shop lifting benefits fraud and trust abuse (aka stealing from vulnerable people) oh wait cant do that ether..."

Exactly.

Violence is a problem. Theft is a problem.

Crime prevention should include initiatives to prevent offending in the first place. I doubt anyone would disagree with that.

What really astonishes me is how well men have trained women not to question this, that women themselves will defend men, even in the face of absolutely enormous amounts of violence

It is pretty impressive, yes. It seems that these days, women are clambering over themselves to claim 'I am not one of those miserable feminists' and trying to outdo one another in excusing male violence and perpetuating misogyny. If men were the oppressed sex, I can guarantee that they would not be making excuses for women.

Why would we call all women thieves??? No one said to call all men anything.

'I am just not willing to call black while in pursuit of my argument'

I have no idea what this means.

I would assume while is a typo for white.

I don't think it is right to blame "men" as a group for violence, no more than it is right to blame all Muslims for terrorism, all Americans for Trump, all Germans for Hitler (even the ones born decades after the end of WWII).

Men are statistically more likely than women to commit acts of violence? Yes. But don't worry - women are fighting back. Women commit more acts of violence now than at any time in history. We commit more acts at a time when male violence is actually decreasing. We're catching up.

The problem is VIOLENCE. Not men.

I never ever like these figures
Violence by the hands of women is very real and at the same same rate as men.
But men do not report, there is a horrid stigma when a man is assaulted or abused by a women. They feel lost embarrassed and so much more.
I refuse to use data that I know if inaccurate.

It still doesn't make sense.

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There is a reason why benefit fraud is largely committed by women. Many more women than men receive benefits are are totally dependent on the state for their survival (while often the fathers of their children are able to walk away with no consequences). Yes, benefit fraud is wrong, but when you look at some of the cases, you feel desperately sorry for those women who are trying to make a better life for their children and take slightly more than what they are entitled to. Women get paid less and are more likely to be living in poverty, often with caring responsibilities for other family members. But we dismiss million pound tax avoidance by corporations as fine and normal.

Sorry i meant tar all women as thevies and its a women problem that they steal and are generally untrustworthy and so all none female thevies should stand up and deal with the problem that women are thevies.

I was not saying theft is worse than murdet or sexaul violence i was just pointing how it would look to brand women as thevies or as untrustworthy as statistically they are more like to be thevies...

'Violence by the hands of women is very real and at the same same rate as men.'

Total and utter nonsense. You are an absolute idiot if you believe that women are somehow managing to murder thousands of people every year without anyone noticing.

Chelle aren't the statistics on female violence now including violence committed by transwomen (so - biological men)? That would account for a rise in statistics for female violence - male violence is now sometimes recorded as having been committed by females.

So, let me get this straight. Because the majority of thieving(ultra low level crime) is perpetuated by females that means we should just equate them to the vast majority of males that murder/rape/assault (high level crimes)?

Fuck that.

Stealing meat from Tescos is no where near the same as killing the mother of your children.

Sunshineintheclouds

Are you serious? You seriously think as much violence is committed by women as men. Do you live under a rock? Have you not heard of war?

Chelledawg- No one is saying the problem is men. They are saying that most violent acts perpetrated are by men.
Please tell me about the rising statistics of violent women

Violence by the hands of women is very real and at the same same rate as men

Oh really, Sunshine, can I have some stats for that please? especially stats showing rates of death and serious injury of men at the hands of women.

In fact, research shows that female assault on a male is MORE likely to lead to a police report than the other way round. The whole 'stigma' thing is a popular myth though.

No one is branding anyone as anything worrid, or saying anyone is untrustworthy. You're making that up yourself.

Sunshine that isn't true though is it.

The victims of murders are not choosing not to be reported - the vast majority of murders are committed by men. Male on male violence is also infinitely higher than female on female violence, even if you're in denial about male on female domestic violence being far more prevalent than the reverse.