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Is there another internet?

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Fantasyfumble · 16/08/2017 22:54

Some weirdo I met on a dating site claimed he used a different internet to what everyone else uses

Kinda paranoid he may have been able to snoop on me snooping on him . Googling potential dates is normal right?! I thought everyone did it and just didn't admit it

But why would he say that? Could he have been?

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functionAndMethod · 17/08/2017 14:09

LuLuuuuuuu

Explain how you use torrents to access the dark web and I'll apologise about assuming you were high or being sarcastic.

McTufty · 17/08/2017 14:48

To be fair it does sound like I was ignorant about the dark web. This thread has been very educational.

CarpeVitam · 18/08/2017 19:02

Well this thread has certainly been very educational! Wink

WelshMoth · 19/08/2017 06:17

Ever been quite rightly worried about the government wanting a 'back door' into encryptions, which would include your online banking for example? Or that they're set to be keeping tabs on who views 'adult content' from April next year?

Can someone explain this bit to me please ?

VisitorFromAlphaStation · 19/08/2017 06:39

Fantasyfumble wrote: "Some weirdo I met on a dating site claimed he used a different internet to what everyone else uses. ... He said his job was security. I assumed that meant he stood in a shopping centre or worked nights as a bouncer though".

Where did you say you had your date with him? Outside Cheltenham perhaps?

I assume the third internet is darknet which on the telly they said it's sites and websites not indexed by the search engines and only possible to access through special browsers or software like onion I think it's called or maybe it's tor - I haven't really bothered to find out, as I have much better things to do in life, like looking at the sky, tending to my houseplants, or thinking about what will happen with my pension in 2045 and so on.

Tigerlovingall · 19/08/2017 07:49

I had the dark and deep webs explained to me just last week by a friend working on another country. His explanation was in line with banana's upthread.
He'd just completed a webinar (an online seminar) about them both. the govt. he's working for even gave him a susstificate for 'attending' itGrin

Cocklodger · 19/08/2017 07:59

WelshMoth

What it boils down to is our devices know a lot about us, from fairly innocuous stuff like us wanting a new patio or solar panels to our bank details, fetishes, personal information. Basically everything.
Think of the apps you use, the things you buy, the information you store on your phone or laptop. It's probably a lot.
Terrorists also have phones and laptops and finding information via them (via law enforcement/intelligence agencies) is very easy and saves time - at least, than traditional methods would.
So bit by bit more of our information, accounts, services become more linked and more easily accessible by law enforcement.
It has cyber security risks in itself but a lot of people are uncomfortable with it - especially with some things most of us do (ie watch fairly normal non criminal porn) being monitored; or soon to be so.
I hope this helps.
It doesn't yet worry me that much, only a bit, but I do find the option to basically unsubscribe from being sold to every 5 minutes without even realising it, having my data accessed and sold to/by god knows who or possibly something more sinister very comforting.

Timmytoo · 19/08/2017 07:59

The Dark web or actually the deep web is another side to the web, infact it's not all dark it's just not monitored like the web and information is encrypted so you are anonymous making it "safer" to do illegal things. it's accessed using a browser called an onion browser. I can assure that you wouldn't be able to access anything bad anyway unless you know where and how to look on it

Tigerlovingall · 19/08/2017 08:26

Oh btw, my friend scanned his 'susstificate' issued to him by the govt. he works for, to show me -demonstrating he's taken a "deep dive for criminal investigators" - love it! GrinGrin
However, yes, once you've downloaded TOR or similar, which are free, you then need the key to access your particular interest, think of locked doors, the keys being combinations of letters and numbers v.v. Unlikely to be randomly selected. For me, it certainly gave lie to the excuse the sick saddos who are caught on child porn sites saying they 'happened' across them.

Tigerlovingall · 19/08/2017 08:53

Agreed, think of the deep web as the shed round the back of the library where boring but innocuous bulky stuff is stored. In that shed is a locked room which can only be opened by special keys made up of a combination of letters and numbers v.v.unlikely to be accidentally stumbled across. This Is the dark web and contains stuff which is, frankly, terrifying.

Tigerlovingall · 19/08/2017 08:56

Sorry for double post saying, essentially, the same thing. Saturday morning traffic's making my browser loading so slowly.apols.

ChuffCloud · 19/08/2017 09:17

Bragging about using the dark web is very weird as it's only there for illegitimate purposes. Not that hard to access if you have the right computer knowledge.

ChuffCloud · 19/08/2017 09:19

Would also disagree that those using proxy servers and Tor for torrenting/being untraceable for general usage is the same as accessing the dark web.

ChuffCloud · 19/08/2017 09:27

OP I think there is a function in WhatsApp to see who has viewed your status so nothing mysterious about that. He is for some reason bragging that he's some sort of spy/hacker when it sounds like he's just a bit nuts.

rabbitcakes · 19/08/2017 09:33

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazine-40977474/silk-road-google-search-unmasked-dread-pirate-roberts

This just popped up on BBC news. Thought some might find it interesting.

MongerTruffle · 19/08/2017 09:35

Deep web vs dark web

DonkeyOil · 19/08/2017 09:45

Is there a Deep Dark web, such as the Gruffalo would use?

PancakesAteTheChildren · 19/08/2017 09:57

So using tor, your browsing is private. But I have also read that you cannot then access Facebook, for example, as you then lose your anonymity. So how is it private? and you could read mumsnet, for example, the usual way, but it would be slower?

functionAndMethod · 19/08/2017 14:13

PancakesAteTheChildren

You can access Facebook (see my screenshots in an earlier post) but that's because they have set up a second page. All dark web pages end in .onion in the same way mumsnet ends in .com

MN would be foolish not to also own mumsnet.co.uk, mumsnet.net etc. There are good arguments to set up a .onion site too except the ignorant may disapprove! Using Facebook on the darkweb would mean that knowing where you are accessing it from would be impossible. Of course, if you announced it on your FB it isn't private.

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