To think that the dull get too many advantages..

[scaryclown]

Just that really, I just feel that sometimes everything feels like it set up to help the dull.. Hang around for ages and you get promoted, don't have any interests or a social life, get a great credit rating, stay in one house for years and all the banks trust you, don't ever stick out, don't ever get hassled etc etc etc. .

Did Kylie know she was partying with you?

If you are looking for loads of money while doing a terribly exciting job, then you have to put in the hard yards usually.Doesn't just come to you because you are edgy and think you are worth it, you know.

Anyway- if Silicon Valley is your dream go for it.I'm sure they advertise jobs just like anyone else.

I want to develop an exciting app too and sell it for millions but really cannot be arsed with all the boring coding work, but I am so exciting, I am!

Seriously, scaryclown, you are just making excuses for yourself.

Had work op takes enormous discipline and the discipline can be dull.

Typical day for me ten years ago:
Up 5am
Two hours on Masters
Get DC up at 7
Give them breakfast
Shower
Everyone ready by 8am
Au-pair down to keep dd company
Whizz d's to school
Back by 8.30
Walk dd to school
Walk to work
Work until 5.45/6
Get home 6.30 probs pick someone up en-route
Chat au-pair
Chat dc, review homework
Pack and organise for next day
Get DC to bed
Tidy round, do admin, get organised
DH home at 9.30/10ish
Chat DH while he has supper
Go to bed

Do it all over again. Keep it up for, oh a total of 15/17 years. Along the way the best schools London offered, good holidays, beautiful houses, opera, good restaurants, security. All that dullness leads to a good life. Sorry if it irks you. It has irked so many. So many have said they wouldn't have put up with dh's workaholism, long hours, weeks away, have dissed me going back to work and getting prof quals and a Masters, etc. I couldn't give a stuff what others think. I'm that dull.

Anyway- more seriously- you sound depressed. Are you okay? If you hate your life what one thing can you change about it... tomorrow, this week, next year?

We can all do with a bit of life-editing now and then. Sounds like you are also ready for a change.

Did Kylie know she was partying with you?

Ha ha. One of the DC's chums developed an app when he was at school and sold it to Google. How dull is that to have had such a lad eating pizza round here.

Did Kylie know she was partying with you?

Pretty sure Kylie has a thread going at the moment 'I used to go partying with Scaryclown, but now I'm surrounded by dullards.'

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Meh, hard work takes discipline. A clean house and the making sure the children are well fed and have clean clothes that fit them well require discipline. Being disciplined about housework cuts into time for other stuff. Saving money so that I know there's money for if the car suddenly needs a flywheel change we have it requires discipline and not deciding we can just randomly go to Go Ape or for a weekend potholing in the peak district or whatever.

And without your "excel monkeys" there wouldn't be jobs for the front of house staff.

Meh, I'm starting to feel like the self obsessed lazy users get further in life so long as they're charming and physically attractive..and the dull hard working rule-followers generally don't.

This has been my observation for a loooong time.

🍻 to the rise of dull, concientious, socially awkward, average looking plodders/wallflowers.

OP does sound terminally dull herself though, so I'm at a loss to understand her struggle to ascend the greasy pole of fiscal and employment success.

Good point about Kylie, I'll ask her next time :) mind you she's exciting but she's exhausted poor chicken. I am just frustrated because I've been foodbanking and frugalising and don't feel anything like the zen I thought I'd feel..

Oh look, an extra "We have it" - looks like things are livening up chez Gherkin

Silicon Valley? What with all those tedious IT blokes?

Oh don't be a baby. So the world isn't set up to reward people who happen to make you feel sparkly over those who don't. Financial rewards tend to accrue to people who can be counted on to stick around and give consistent value for money. Quel surprise. If you don't want to do that, you accept that people aren't going to fall over themselves to reward you just for being scintillating or whatever.

I am also in a town smaller than I'd like, but I'd probably roll my eyes if you went out of your way to inform me you'd partied with Kylie - nothing more tedious than anecdotes of that spectacular time someone was in the same room as someone famous.

And I fancied an out there deeply cynical twisted will self novel and the local crappie bookshop only had the book of Dave

Who's Kylie? One of those Kardashian girls?

I know a woman who spends her life mixing with celebs, even middle aged aussie ones, the moneys crap and she's miserable. It's dull after a while.

Well. I've have read the whole thread and I still don't get it. It's like Monday happy hour in Wetherspoons before an election.

I'm with Kurri though. I think. My life has been like EastEnders this last 18 months, except no one has shrieked 'Get Out Of My Pub' at anyone, yet . Quiet life for me eventually, thanks .

Ahh Steff good point, I was thinking Minogue...

So you partied with Kylie. You have had an 'exciting' life.

But you arent happy. Odd that

You sound a bit dull yourself. Or do I mean dim?

I think part of the issue is that I think you can have a dull life but be interesting imaginatively but a lot of the people I know at the moment are fucking loaded, have 'gone legal' in that every agency and bank knows where they are and what they do, but they seem afraid to imagine anything outside what they do.. Loads of money but don't go to the theatre or ballet, or go to interesting cities, or eat well or do anything spontaneously and it seems a waste that people with no ideas or imagination would have all the opportunity, and yet so many unfettered imaginative people can't afford any of that.. It seems the wrong way around... That's all..

I find it deeply ironic that you think that people who do the things that you don't enjoy - and find 'dull' - should be paid less than the wacky, zany, creative show-off types. That the front of house and sales staff should be paid more than the Excel monkeys. Just a thought - who do you think is doing the dull job of making sure that everyone gets paid? That the building is safe? That the materials you need, the sales leads you rely on, the house that you want to front - are all there, up to scratch and ready for people like you to sparkle?

You sound narcissistic and unpleasant, sneering away at people who do things that you think are deeply boring. It must be a bitter pill to swallow that they are probably quite happy and content whilst you're busy viewing life through a lens of dissatisfaction. It's hard to be diligent and keep plodding away day by day - just because you don't value it doesn't mean it's valueless.

And if you are so desperate to go off and be the next big disruptor then off you go. What's stopping you? Apart from being so dull and provincial that you're sitting on Mumsnet on a Saturday night like the rest of us ordinary mortals?

Brian I've never heard of Kylie Minogue. I googled her, I think she might have been on an episode of Doctor Who? Maybe she wasn't popular here in the US.