To think LTB is trotted out far too readily by many...

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... especially where children are involved. Trying to work through and resolve differences and problems seems like too much bother for some who revel in advising the woman to leave or kick out their partner.

Of course there are some situations where LTB is appropriate, especially where there's abuse... I'm not talking about those.

The misogyny was the suggestion that it's women's fault that men have affairs and break up relationships in the process because they won't put up with partners that do that.

I think that's the wrong conclusion to draw... That it may be true (and don't necessarily agree with the hypothesis by the way) that some women are more likely to steal a partner because other women are less likely to put up with infidelity doesn't mean it's women's fault for being less likely to forgive their husbands' infidelity....

Therefore this isn't misogyny, any more than it is misogynistic to suggest that a woman who is paralytic and alone late at night walking through a red light district is more likely to be assaulted than one tucked up alone in her bed in a guarded compound. "Is an attack more likely" - Yes; "is she more to blame" - No. Behaving in a way that increases the likelihood of a thing happening does not equate with being more to blame when that thing does occur.

'LTB' is still the best advice in most cases.
The idea that women should 'work at the relationship' just extends the pain. If the fucker partner/husband isn't fit to live with, cut your losses and get out of there asap.

No one with an ounce of common sense is going to leave their relationship because a load of ransoms on the internet told them too.

Personally I think it's said just the right amount because in RL it's really not said very often at all. People are very invested in ensuring women stay stuck in bad marriages. My ex hit me, cheated, financially and emotionally abused me, never did a stroke round the house or any childcare unless he felt like it - which wasn't often. When I finally, with the the help of the LTB crew on MN, left him everyone said "well I never saw that coming" and these were people who'd seen the bruises on occasion and one who actually had to pull him away from me as he drunkenly harangued me when I was 9 months pregnant.

Personally I think it's said just the right amount because in RL it's really not said very often at all.

This with bells on.

MN is a teeny, tiny oasis, very much going against the societal grain - whereby women are 'given permission' to just leave unhappy relationships.

I really wouldn't worry OP - the message from the rest of society is very much that women should stay, work at, and put up with whatever crap is thrown at them.

MN is a complete anomaly. That's why it's so great.

I didn't mean to come across as misogynistic, just that maybe long term relationships are evolving as women are becoming empowered to LTB so to speak.

I'm quite independent and can go it alone no probs if I had to. But would that make someone feel less bad about treating me poorly? It happens in other aspects of my life. But I'm going off topic.

I wish LTB was overused, but sadly it isn't.

This is, essentially, a TAAT.

One that comes up frequently.

If you think the advice on a thread is wrong, post on that thread what you think is right.

It's as simple as that.

A solution literally at your fingertips.

I wonder if the same advice would be given to a man, to think of his children and make his marraige work.
My wife is shagging another bloke and tells me she loves him._ stick with her it won't last.
My wife visits strippers and pays the men to strip for her._ don't worry it's you she comes home to, all women do it.
My wife refuses to cut down on her working hours, she then says she's too tired to interact with me or the children. _ you are a selfish ungrateful bastard, your wife is working all these hours for you so you don't have to work.
My wife tells me I'm a fat, ugly bastard, she watches porn and masterbates to it._ try and enjoy sex with her, work harder to, rekindle your attraction, perhaps join a gym.
My wife just doesn't see mess. She never ever cleans no matter how much mess there is_ give here a break you moaning prick.

Those responses have never been made on MN, Emily

Yep, it's always women who have to put up and try and find a way to make the marriage work.

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What concerns me is that now that women are standing up to cheating g husbands, it makes them more attainable to women who want to get their claws into them. So a woman who really wants a married man is more likely to pursue him if she thinks he will get thrown out from their marriage/relationship. I don't think that leaves men more vulnerable, because if they are going to cheat, they will but marriages and relationships more vulnerable as all if a sudden there is an established, accepted way of getting your man.

And last time i checked we dont have claws. we have fingernails.