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To think Gabby Logan was out of order there?

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Newdad19 · 08/08/2017 22:30

A live interview on bbc2 with the head of the IAAF medical team on the decision for Makwala not to run due to illness. Pretty much ganged up with her guests and grilled the poor woman.

It wasnt even good journalism, they just repeatedly asked the same questions which she tried to answer with facts and it was clear she was u comfortable with their line of questioning. Almost felt a bit bullyish? Poor show from gabby

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quencher · 09/08/2017 12:04

There were records though of him admitting to vomiting, didn't he actually go to the medics for help? Backtracked massively when he realised he might not be allowed to compete. No he did not. He went for check up. Waited for about 30min with no one. From my understanding the IAAF said there was two other people with him, in their statement. Which I think its what meant to happen. However, both his team and the doctor did say there was no one there with him.

They told him to wait for a result in order for the decision to be made. However, no type of sample was taken. So what sort of result would thy wait for. If it's his stool they needed then they would have told him and his team give some. None of that was done. No did the doctor tell them to come back or would they be seen by another person.

I watched the first bit of the interview and they read out the email which was sent to his team at 7pm explaining what was going to happen. What didn't happen was a clear explanation of what was going to happen before that email arrived. If other team received emails and explanations, his didn't. All the in formation both his team and the BBC got was from the media. The representative whom this thread is about came after a long wait of no information.

Also, from my understanding, on Monday he was training and getting ready for Tuesday's race because he thought he was fine.

Their misunderstanding was the 48 hour wait. It's not law but a requirement from health officials in order to try and contain spread of viruses and diseases.

And somebody above who mentioned why would Gabby or someone one on panel mention schools. I would say that the same thing applies. Last month when Dd had a random vomit. I took her to school and mentioned this. The nursery didn't let her in until 48 hours had passed.

I would assume different countries would deal with it differently. I.e. India as given example up.

Newdad19 · 09/08/2017 12:06

I think the consensus here is that the decision was right. Maybe not iron clad and communication potentially could have been improved but ultimately it comes down to assumptions and probailities of infecting others and the decision was made.

The one thing that is abundantly clear though is the agreed consensus regarding Gabby and teams handling of it.

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youarenotkiddingme · 09/08/2017 12:06

The problem seem to initiate from them believing the Bahamas mesic and the athlete and also other reports. Ok, so the IAAF didn't release a statement which may or may not have helped them.
But the woman interviewed pretty much counteracted all the information previously banded about about it being just one small vomit.

PelorusJack · 09/08/2017 12:06

Piglet.
You've missed the point of my post. The people investigating the outbreak will be looking at the bigger picture. Someone who easily throws up before a race and who hasn't been in contact with other people involved in the outbreak ISNT the same as someone else who has been in contact with people involved in the outbreak even if they had also only been sick once.

justatoe1 · 09/08/2017 12:08

I felt uncomfortable watching that interview: there were 2 Botswana reps there (one masseuse who was 'Medical Staff') and their version of events appear to have been supported. The IAAF rep was grilled and her version doubted.

BoysofMelody · 09/08/2017 12:13

I think the questions about whether the rules were being applied fairly and consistently were fair enough, but when they started pontificating about medical treatment they looked stupid and ill-informed.

derxa · 09/08/2017 12:17

I think I might head to Eurosport. DH and I love athletics but we hate the BBC coverage. I keep seeing Iwan Thomas interviewing people trackside. Who's he working for?

derxa · 09/08/2017 12:18

Good post quencher

BitOutOfPractice · 09/08/2017 12:25

Bring back Clare Balding I say

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/08/2017 12:26

Who's he working for?

Local organising committee. They are interviews that go out on the big screen in the stadium.

Quite a few ex athletes have done it in the past both here and abroad.

BubblesBuddy · 09/08/2017 12:36

Iwan Thomas works for the stadium. Presenting to the audience. Martin Lewis too for some bizarre reason. I was there last night so oblivious to the row until Radio 5 discussed it this morning. Lots of people felt the medic lady was ganged up on by ill informed ex athletes who had a one dimensionalview of the issue. As they do with Gatlin whilst totally ignoring all the other athletes who have had drugs bans. It is biased and unacceptable. Expect a lot of complaints to the BBC.

Obviously an empty lane last night, but everyone assumed he was not well enough to compete. Great evening though!

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/08/2017 12:43

Martin Lewis too for some bizarre reason.

Martin Lewis is a huge athletics fan.

gotthemoononastick · 09/08/2017 13:06

Oh dear! Can you hear the drone of a million more menz joining the 'Why is GobbyGabby even on the football,rugby,naked volleyball whatever next resentment website'?

BoysofMelody · 09/08/2017 13:12

Oh dear! Can you hear the drone of a million more menz joining the 'Why is GobbyGabby even on the football,rugby,naked volleyball whatever next resentment website'?

Said no one on this thread.

Although a cursory glance through it will show you a bunch ad hominem attacks on her personality, presumably made by other women.

TheDevilMadeMeDoIt · 09/08/2017 13:14

I had to switch over. The ex-athletes kept asking the question about why more samples weren't taken from other athletes who'd suffered, and the IAAF woman must have said at least six times that they had been advised by Public Health England that it wasn't necessary as they'd had a positive test and all the others had the same symptoms.

I also detected an undercurrent (maybe I was reading too much into it) from GL and the others of a suggestion that the banned athlete had been unfairly singled out because he's black.

Newdad19 · 09/08/2017 13:32

@gotthemoononastick what are you actually talking about? Not one single person on this thread has said anything along the lines of what you are insinuating. Clearly she is qualified to be presenting sports and has made a succesful career out of doing so. I dont think any man or woman has said otherwise. I do draw the line at where she thinks shss a medical expert and interrogates someone to the point of discomfort though.

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derxa · 09/08/2017 13:39

I also detected an undercurrent (maybe I was reading too much into it) from GL and the others of a suggestion that the banned athlete had been unfairly singled out because he's black.
Do you mean Justin Gatlin or Makwala?

TheDevilMadeMeDoIt · 09/08/2017 13:50

derxa - Makwala.

emummy · 09/08/2017 14:05

I'm not sure that the athlete's colour would work against him - most of the superstar athletes who bring in the crowds are black

lovingtheathletics · 09/08/2017 15:57

Crikey just seen Makwala is going to be allowed to race the clock as a goodwill gesture!

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/08/2017 16:10

Crikey just seen Makwala is going to be allowed to race the clock as a goodwill gesture!

If that's true then there is something more going on imo.

Strange move.

lovingtheathletics · 09/08/2017 16:12

Just on BBC news

Newdad19 · 09/08/2017 16:50

Seriously?

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AwaywiththePixies27 · 09/08/2017 16:54

from GL and the others of a suggestion that the banned athlete had been unfairly singled out because he's black.

Doesn't explain why Thomas Barr was also banned though does it?

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