To think Gabby Logan was out of order there?

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A live interview on bbc2 with the head of the IAAF medical team on the decision for Makwala not to run due to illness. Pretty much ganged up with her guests and grilled the poor woman.

It wasnt even good journalism, they just repeatedly asked the same questions which she tried to answer with facts and it was clear she was u comfortable with their line of questioning. Almost felt a bit bullyish? Poor show from gabby

Sorry totally biased not impartial obviously!

I like Gabby Logan. I think she was right to question the decision and the lack of communication.

It wouldn't have happened had the Games taken place in another country. What a mess. Would they have stopped Bolt running? I doubt it.

Well I have just written my first ever complaint to the BBC!

Pam ?

They were all so totally biased though, there was little effort to concede that someone who most probably either had or had been in contact with many people infected with norovirus could not be allowed to mix with a whole load of other people!

He was a high profile athlete and yes they did stop him so possibly they would have stopped Bolt too who knows.

Dexra she was the professional being interviewed at short notice last night, I say interviewed they weren't really listening to her in their eagerness to be right and aggrieved

@Dexra Pam wasthe spokesperson the IAAF put forward for interview.

@Dexra Pam wasthe spokesperson the IAAF put forward for interview.
I know. I didn't know people were on first name terms with her.

Er right then Dexra I won't bother trying to be helpful in future to you then

lovingtheathletics I don't to mean to cause upset. I too love athletics and am dismayed at the mess it's in.

The athletic experts displayed massive ignorance of the midical issues. The IAAF medic tried to explain to them in very simple language the issue but they were too thick to understand. Paula Radcliffe took the biscuit when saying a simple bloodtest could have resolved the matter inspite of the medic saying on numerous ocaasions that results take 36 hours and its not blood they take to diagnose. The panel was a disgrace.

Derxa

It just reminds me too much of the Charlie Gard case where everyone else is suddenly an expert and we have no respect for the professional bodies who let's face it probably do know best in these cases, bit like the courts.

Yea they would have stopped Bolt running. They also stopped Thomas Barr running because he was also suffering from norovirus. But even though he also had been working/training hard all year and is just as equally gutted, he seems to be more accepting of it. It's a public health issue, not a "we'll let x run but not y and z because they're tipped to do well" issue.

There had already been two confirmed cases of noro in the hotel by lab results, so the other 30+ in the same hotel falling ill are pretty conclusive.

I am not medical whatsoever but even I know that you need a stool sample and not bloods to test for conditions like this. I love Paula R but she made me cringe with that observation. As for just sending him in anyway, as someone else said it would be like going into the office with flu and wondering why everyone was really rather angry at you then infecting them. Far worse, these athletes have trained for months/years to compete in these games, you cannot risk damaging their chances. Not to mention all the poor staff there who might have come into contact with him (or his hands on loo doors whatever)

What lack of communication would that be asalways. What else were they meant to have done?

Pixie I thought she was very diplomatic saying that all the other teams had been co-operating perfectly with them, clearly the Botswanian team had not and him just turning up! Well wtf?

loving yes that's exactly the point. 30 athletics PLUS supporting staff have fell ill with it.

Any idiot who knows anything about infection control knows that norovirus isn't tested for via a blood test and you most certainly are never admitted to hospital with it unless you are acutely ill with it. Hospitals don't tend to like you bringing a bug with such virulency that can close a ward within 24hours in unless necessary.

There were reports he'd been throwing up for 18hrs before being told he couldn't run. That was changed to only once and he's fine once they realised he couldn't compete.

I wasn't sick once when I had norovirus. I still had it. How I managed not to be sick whilst also cleaning up the DCs vomit I'll never know. I did have it the 'other end' though with the excruciating stomach pains. We were diagnosed on symptoms alone and who we'd been in contact with via a telephone consultation. Infection control 101.

Balance of probabilities was that he did have it given he was experiencing a symptom and had been in close proximity with several people who's gone down like flies with it.

So it wasn't just me then.

I think the IAAF ought to be strung up for putting Venning in that position and that she was a class A eejit for agreeing to do it but the line of questioning from the presenters (let's not sully the profession of journalism by calling them journalists) was appalling. And agree with everyone about Paula R. I'm not a medic but she just came across as incredibly silly with her line of questioning.

Piglet I'm sure Gabby Logan is very nice in real life but she didn't do well at her job last night. At all. Michael Johnson looked like he just wanted to crawl away and hide.

The whole thing was just cringe inducing.

Pixie I thought she was very diplomatic saying that all the other teams had been co-operating perfectly with them

Yes she did however she also said she had nothing to do with the accreditation withdrawal and the the stopping of them competing.

So far he is the only 'high profile athlete affected. Maybe if it was Bolt, Gatlin etc then those federations wouldn't have co operated either.

Who knows.

I thought how brave of someone to come on and speak when the panel would be full of righteous indignation but I stopped watching eventually, toe curling.

Just Pam Venning came across very well I thought though, she looked very professional and calm, it was the 3 woman that made fools of themselves. Yes Michael Johnson didn't say as much but he was clearly with them in opinion.

Agree with JaniceBattersby It was completely and painfully obvious that none of the interviewers were journalists. V poor of the BBC to allow that.

Michael Johnson looked like he just wanted to crawl away and hide.

Apart from the fact he agreed with them and also asked about tests and proof.

I just think after the heated disagreement with Cram about Gatlin he didn't want to get into another live disagreement.

He was very much with them though.