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I think it's time to kiss our arses goodbye

187 replies

BishopBrennansArse · 08/08/2017 20:37

We're fucking screwed 😱

Trump threatens 'fury' against N Korea
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40869319

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user53592952153 · 09/08/2017 08:25

How this develops will be interesting as it will show if Kim really believes his own hype

Who knows? I doubt that he does, just like I doubt that Trump believes what he is saying either. He's saying this stuff because he wants to continue brainwashing the NK people.

KitKat1985 · 09/08/2017 08:35

Makeourfuture my personal humble opinion is that China itself has been strongly imploring NK to desist with it's nuclear weapons programme for a long time, and if media reports are to be believed are getting increasing frustrated with NKs insistence on continuing with it's weapons programme. I think if NK were to take the first step in aggression and were to launch a weapon against Guam as it is threatening to do then I think China will wash it's hands of them.

marcusb · 09/08/2017 08:35

with all the wisest and smartest living people the world has, the world events are actually shaped by a bunch of caricature-ish individuals.. Shock

Abra1d · 09/08/2017 08:38

great, two crazy world leaders with massive egos and narc behaviour will probably blow the world to smithereens for their own self serving purposes, doesn't bear thinking about

Jack Monroe has got some scary ingredients she could make flour bombs with.

bangingmyheadoffabrickwall · 09/08/2017 08:42

Just bullshit!

Both like the sound of their own rubbish spouting from their traps. Playground tactics.

I know many will be thinking not, given nuclear warheads are being threatened, but seriously, how often have we found ourselves with similar news?

Even if NK did strike first, they'd be obliterated. If US struck first, Trump would most likely be out of a job and the US being ostracised by much of the world.

It won't happen. Sit back with your Brew have a Biscuit (am not be sarcky) and literally TRY and gt on with normality.

Laiste · 09/08/2017 08:45

I was fascinated by his body language. Arms so tightly folded. I think he feels out of his depth.

Anyway ...

I can't get worked up. Don't know why. Maybe because at 50 this year i've seen so much willy waving over the years on the news i'm now immune to feeling anything much about it.

Lweji · 09/08/2017 08:45

however they don't have missiles that can reach further than Japan and South Korea

The latest tests suggest their missiles can reach most of mainland US.

Not that I think anything will happen. Kim Jong-Un just wants to be left in power to stamp on his own people. It's the pesky world powers with their sanctions that are the problem.
Trump has to realise that they're at a Mexican (the irony) stand off with them and it has probably passed the time when the US could intervene militarily, if there ever was that time.
Hopefully, Lil'l Kim will understand and will only want a war of words too.

dementedma · 09/08/2017 08:45

I agree that it's China who are the real power players here..

lovingtheathletics · 09/08/2017 08:47

CheerfulYank hope you are feeling a bit better today Flowers anxiety is dreadful xx

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 09/08/2017 08:50

Trump is so stupid.

He ramps up the rhetoric and puts himself in a position where he will need China on his side and so he gives them a lot of power over himself.
He also obliges Kim with his power trip.

Carolinesbeanies · 09/08/2017 08:51

I love how Kim Jong Un is completely ignored here. All round great guy. I can only imagine that MN believe KJU supports the 'women dont need vaginas' movement. You should be grateful Trumps in charge and not some Corbyn pretender. How would you deal with him? Cross him off your christmas card list? Even Corbyn wouldnt go that far.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 09/08/2017 08:52

What on earth are you on about Caroline?

alltouchedout · 09/08/2017 08:54

It's very odd to be sitting on the bus going to work, sipping coffee, listening to music, and wondering if the world as we know it is about to end.
All you pp who've managed to watch Threads- just reading about it disturbed me so much I haven't yet managed to actually watch it. Was it as upsetting and appalling as it sounds?

Lweji · 09/08/2017 08:57

You should be grateful Trumps in charge and not some Corbyn pretender

Are you calling Hillary a Corbyn pretender?
Grin
Or was that aimed at Ted Cruz? Rubio?

SukiTheDog · 09/08/2017 09:04

Two kids playing at "end of the world" in the woods. What a mess.

TizzyDongue · 09/08/2017 09:06

Tell us more about this "Women dont need vaginas" movement.

(Also I feel you might be taking your Corbyn hate a teeny weeny bit far.)

CheerfulYank · 09/08/2017 09:11

Thanks athletic :) It's 3 now and I really should sleep but...ugh. I'm horrible at being anxious since it's a rare occurrence.

Apparently Trump will need the Secretary of Defense to actually launch any bombs etc. By all accounts Mattis is extremely good at his job. Hopefully he will keep it all under control.

Radicalrooster · 09/08/2017 09:17

A few months ago I read something about a theory by a scientist (or sociologist?), Italian, I think, along the lines of: the fact that we have found no life on other planets could be due to alien civilisations political structures not having kept up with scientific progress. I.e. those civilisations were advanced enough to create weapons of mass destruction but could not manage them and ended up self-destructing

It's called the Fermi Paradox, after the physicist Enrico Fermi. It is primarily referred to in relation to the emergence of an Artificial super-intelligence.

Which is what makes me laugh a little in response to the hysteria exhibited on this thread. You heap abuse on posturing politicians, but there are software engineers out there (Google Deep Mind, for example) who are busily creating machine intelligence that can, feasibly in theory, extinguish all forms of life on this planet in the blink of an eye - an existential threat to humanity's survival that dwarfs that offered by nuclear weapons. Yet no one bats an eyelid.

Akani · 09/08/2017 09:18

Trump has yet to figure out that he doesn't need to attend every argument he's invited to.

Currently he's still working at the very juvenile level of "always respond or you look weak".

NationalExpress · 09/08/2017 09:23

Radical, there was a thread about super intelligence and its threat to the human race on MN a while ago, amongst those who were very concerned at the implications, the majority of posters were scathing about the possible ramifications and suggested posters were being a little hysterical.
So yes, I agree with your post.

aftersomeadvice23 · 09/08/2017 09:32

Cheerfuk yank - hope you are ok.
It's 9.30am here but i was up most of the night like yourself. It seems worse during the night - I'm feeling a little better this morning. I hate anxiety.

LittleLionMansMummy · 09/08/2017 09:46

All you pp who've managed to watch Threads- just reading about it disturbed me so much I haven't yet managed to actually watch it. Was it as upsetting and appalling as it sounds?

I only recently plucked up the courage. It's relentlessly grim. It made me think through the actualities of a nuclear holocaust should it happen. If you've read 'The Road' I guess it's similar - although I actually found The Road far scarier and even more bleak. Threads is pretty dated now, which kind of removes it from modern day society a bit. I didn't lie awake after watching it, but there are obviously parts of the film that come back to you very easily (melting milk bottles, baby being born) but more for the horror they represent rather than the horror itself iyswim? Basically the scariest thing is how different the world would be post-nuclear war. But that's no worse than our own imaginings.

EndoplasmicReticulum · 09/08/2017 09:50

I watched Threads at school. I'm sure I've read on here that others did too. I'm not sure what our teachers were thinking with that one, to be honest.

KeiraKnightleyActsWithHerTeeth · 09/08/2017 10:00

Threads is the most disturbing thing I have ever watched. It made me vomit and I genuinely haven't been able to get it out of my mind since.
I can't believe your teachers showed it to you Shock

ShoesHaveSouls · 09/08/2017 10:01

At school?? Bloody hell.

I saw it at about 14, I don't know what my parents were thinking letting me watch it. It haunted me forever - I couldn't sleep for weeks. It's relentlessly grim, with not even a glimmer of hope.

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