I think it's time to kiss our arses goodbye

[BishopBrennansArse]

We're fucking screwed 😱

Trump threatens 'fury' against N Korea
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40869319

I had major issues as a kid after watching threads and suffered insomnia and anxiety. Guess what. It's 1.27 and I can't sleep because of end of the world thoughts. Will the human race never learn.

I'm the same - wide awake checking the news. Wish this anxiety would fuck off!

Well if I don't need to worry about my pension after all I shall take that as a small silver lining.

The lasting image is the milk bottle melting. It haunts my nightmares

I loved threads it was fascinating

It's a dead cat in the table again. While we are all being horrified at what he says, we don't notice what he does.

GriefLeavesItsMark

Thatcher did the same thing with the Faulkands

I'm fairly confident nothing will come if this, other than Trumps ego getting more inflated than it already is.

He's just playing the 'look at me, I'm such a big man' game and he'll win because NK don't yet have the technology. Once they do things will be completely different, but hopefully by then Trump will be out.

NK is 'considering' a strike against Guam apparently, which is a US territory. As someone living on the west coast US, I'm getting slightly nervous TBH

I haven't read all about this bad news as yet, well not till I came on here late night tonight, I have only just ordered a new mobile phone off the net,, due in two days, will I ever get to use it ha ha. and its my sons birthday tomorrow, and he is wheelchair bound, how will we all cope, ha ha,
Apart from all this nonsense. but Donald Trump, and kim whatever his name is. always seem like a couple of cartoon characters, like people unreal, like in some fantasy film.. I think that both these people mentioned are very way out, and capable of doing something very horrible and dire .

Its ok , because may will back "the fart" right up, to the base of his hilt while bending over a barrel without any lube available, just like every pm after Churchill. if you're wondering why "may" & "pm" aren't capitalised....it's because they're not worthy of capital letters (the less said of corbyn and he's no better either).

It's all a big distraction from Russia and the fact that the orange nutter is about to be impeached!

The BBC analysis is interesting
N Korea crisis: Where do we go after 'fire and fury'?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40871754

I watched Threads as a teenager at the height of the Cold War, I can still remember the woman who 'wet' herself. My aunt was an extra in it as she lived where they filmed it.

Trump is unstable ( and Kim barking mad) but in a way his bellicose response to NK might be what's needed. Sanctions and "let's get round the table and chat" offers have no impact on Kim. The sure knowledge that Trump will react in the way he says he will might be enough to stop Kim actually doing anything. A bully can be stopped by a bigger bully. And if Kim does fire a missile at US what should Trump do? Ask him nicely to stop or he will be on the naughty step?....all very worrying .

We're currently in America on holiday. It's somewhat worrying to say the least.

Will the human race never learn.

As long as greedy, power crazed people who prioritise money and wealth above all else are voted in, then no.
There are plenty of people who can see where recent decisions are leading, but on the whole these people are treated as crazy and over anxious.

We have been here before: The Cuban Missile Crisis was the closest the world has come to nuclear war and that was all a cocks on the table scenario. It didn't happen then, it's very unlikely to happen now.

During the CMC, there was a lot going on behind the scenes to find a way for USSR to back down without loss of face and to prevent the US from taking action. Afaik, there are no "back channel" communications with North Korea, which is why this is so much more frightening.

Well, that and the fact that both US and NK have complete nutjobs in charge.

How this develops will be interesting as it will show if Kim really believes his own hype. Any outside person can see that NK would be incredibly stupid to show aggression against the USA, as inevitably the USA (and it's allies) would obliterate NK in retaliation. So we will soon see if Kim is really able to see that amongst all the willy waving and back off, or if he is actually arrogant / stupid enough to believe his own hype and start something.

Even Russia and China are worried, as this time they did not try to veto the latest sanctions against NK.

I can't see the US being able to nuke NK as fallout would contaminate SK, China etc.

On the upside, remember all the scare stories when the reactor at Chenovil (bad spelling) went into melt down, have any of your children got 3 heads ?

"Well if I don't need to worry about my pension after all I shall take that as a small silver lining."
Love the sense of humour on MN. Best antidote against anxiety.

I thought this bit in the article on the BBC site was worthy of noting:

"the removals of Saddam Hussein by the Bush administration and Muammar Gaddafi by the Obama administration - two leaders who contemplated nuclear weapons but didn't actually build them - led Pyongyang to a simple conclusion: an actual nuclear capability is the ultimate regime insurance policy."

All actions have consequences, and the consequences are rarely clear at the time.

I had to smile at all the references to 'willy waving' when his name is Kim Dong something !

I'm American.

2 in the morning, lying on my couch bawling. I can't stop. It's bewildering really and I'm laughing at myself a bit but I can't stop. I never panic, ever.

What the fuck have we done? Just what the actual fuck have we done? I live in a blue state. I vote Democrat. I thought I did all I could to stop that incompetent, dangerous buffoon from being voted in but did I really?

A crazy part of me wants to wake my three kids up, move them all to our bed. They're 10 and 4 and 2. I just read an article about survivors of the Japanese bombings, about a mother digging her terrified little girl out of the rubble. Could I do that without going insane? Do we deserve this somehow as a country because we did it first?

I live in a blue state but a red part. I want to go knock on all the doors around me and ask them what the fuck they were thinking, even though their vote didn't really matter in the end.

My best friend suffers with terrible anxiety and was messaging me, panicking. I told her we would be okay. That Kim is nuts but not nuts like that. That we are going to just do what we've always done. Breathe in and out. Make sure my son's field trip shirt is clean for tomorrow. Pay the electric bill. Put in another load of laundry. What the fuck else can we do, I guess?

I'm being ridiculous and dramatic, probably. Plus I seem to have drunk far more wine than I meant to, which never helps in circumstances like this.

But still, I can't stop crying.

the USA (and it's allies) would obliterate NK in retaliation

The big question: What will China do?