Is this accepted now? Young children and electronics on public transport.

[AnneGrommit]

The last few times I've been on a train (not in quiet coach) and quite often on the bus I've had my peace disturbed by toddlers with phones/tablets either playing noisy games on them or watching programmes. When I've asked parents to rein them in I've been invariably met with either passive aggressive remarks about not liking children (I have three myself) or outright hostility and a statement along the lines of "it keeps them quiet". No, it doesn't. It stops them from pestering you but it's far from quiet. AIBU or is this an accepted "thing" now? Because it's fucking annoying.

There are likely to be more posters with disabilities, and with children with disabilities on MN, though, aren't there? It's the kind of situation where people are going to look online for people with similar experiences, so you'd expect to see more posters on MN in that situation than you would know in real life.

Anyone that makes an avoidable noise for their own selfish benefit in a confined shared space with strangers is a dick.

Actually really glad my youngest was in school before we had smartphones and iPads. I know I have been a better parent because of it like everyone else am now hopelessly addicted and the temptation to use screens when doing dull as hell relentless childcare would have been too great.

Urubu, if my child can't use his coping mechanism, he will find other one. That will be shrieking and biting his arms and legs and if you are unlucky, going for other people. You decide which is better.

Are all the people who say there is never an exception to the general rule of being quiet so as not to disturb people this inflexible about other rules? There are times when killing someone would be justified, so the use of an unmuted tablet must be ok in some circumstances.

The vast majority of loud screen watchers aren't SN though are they?

In my experience they aren't children either.

It is very difficult for me to imagine that the only options are video on with sound or shrieking/biting. However, I will accept that you know your DC best and I have to take your word for it.

Still not convinced that all DC watching videos with sound on are in your situation, which sounds quite extreme (no offense meant, just saying in your specific case "whatever works" is acceptable)

granny's son is in his 40s and only watches Peppa Pig at home, not on the bus, as I remember I think he is revving up for when the new baby wants PeppaPig. People are having a problem with finding an insult for me as an woman in her 60s who doesn't have an ipad, smart phone or any other noisy device, just my trusty kindle, so probably quieter than most of them when on public transport but still they try.

He doesn't use a screen but does use sound making devices. Yes he is unusual but certainly not unique as there are similar children at his special school.

Anyone that makes an avoidable noise for their own selfish benefit in a confined shared space with strangers is a dick. So we can safely assume that you never speak in public?

Look if you can't tell the difference between normal human speech and interaction, and avoidable irritating electronic noise, you really can't other people names.
Perhaps the endless noise has addled your brain cells. Try some quiet, you might be able to think clearly again?

can't call other people names

People are having a problem with finding an insult for me as an woman in her 60s who doesn't have an ipad, smart phone or any other noisy device, just my trusty kindle, so probably quieter than most of them when on public transport but still they try.
Sorry, you've lost me. Do you really think this is all about you?
I do care that there's a lot of entitled people out there that think their 'needs' trump other people'say.
And no, I don't mean children with sn who can't wear headphones and have to have the sound on. In the real world they are a tiny proportion of the population. Nobody on this thread is saying their needs should be overlooked.

Lucydogz some people on this thread are saying that.

go on - give me an example

Look through the thread and you will find them.

Where? No one has said that at all. There is nothing wrong with some noise. It's the full volume nonsense that people are talking about.

no - you look through 27 pages and find them. You're the one who says they exist, prove it to me.

I've already read it. I don't need to read it again.

I don't have to prove anything to someone who can't be bothered to read it themselves.

ditto. But, if you can't be bothered (or can't) back up what you post, don't expect to be taken seriously. I'll say it again - no-one on this thread has dismissed the needs of SN children.

I've been posting all the way through spikey. you just can't back up what you said, can you?

Do you imagine you're the only person on this thread with children with additional needs?

I have two, now adults.