Is this accepted now? Young children and electronics on public transport.

[AnneGrommit]

The last few times I've been on a train (not in quiet coach) and quite often on the bus I've had my peace disturbed by toddlers with phones/tablets either playing noisy games on them or watching programmes. When I've asked parents to rein them in I've been invariably met with either passive aggressive remarks about not liking children (I have three myself) or outright hostility and a statement along the lines of "it keeps them quiet". No, it doesn't. It stops them from pestering you but it's far from quiet. AIBU or is this an accepted "thing" now? Because it's fucking annoying.

True that basket! I think OP should possibly try and strike up a conversation with the child, and maybe sprinkle some of her wonderful wisdom. Clearly she is so much more superior to us little folk, so maybe the younger generation could benefit? Rather than spouting her tripe on here and effectively wasting her time!

riceuten

That may be true of you, and very sensible, but plenty of people on this thread have said quiet tablet noise isn't ok. And in my experience some people won't even put up with a baby quietly gurgling without being rude.

I don't even use my phone in front of my toddler if I can help it as she'll want it then, but I've had plenty of judgement from all sorts of people.

Oh and those moaning about the noise of electronic devices.... do you moan at the hospital when they have their telly on? You used to play with marbles to occupy yourself.... and I'm sure you were very noisy when you did it! Things have evolved, either move with the times or go back to your cave.

It's not progress though, that children (and clearly their parents) are getting ruder, more selfish and more entitled

Or society is becoming more child centred and tolerant of electronic noise.

I think your expectations are too high. How do you plan to stop the noise coming from phones and electronic games? If you told me to turn the (already very low) volume to silent on my toddler's tablet, I would laugh and decline.

On the plus side, children used to be hit and sedated with alcohol.

I would laugh and decline.

What a wonderful example to set to a child.

Someone points out that something that you can control annoying many other people and your attitude is that everyone else should just suck it up. These children will grow up to be even more entitled than their parents.

Or society is becoming more child centred and tolerant of electronic noise.#

Society is child centered enough, tbh. Too much so. Your little emperors must come first, their comfort is all that matters!

But you're right let's call a halt to progress, make public transport inaccessible to many and unpleasant for many more, that'll be great

That is what you'll be doing with every seat blaring their own music and tv shows. It will then be inaccessible to many and unpleasant for the rest of us.

If my child grows up able to laugh and decline I will be so so happy.

So if your child, when an adult, laughs in the face of a stranger asking them to stop doing something irritating then you will be happy?

Fucking hell.

No where near as annoying as work conversations on phones or overload headphone noise or even worse playing music without headphones (had years of practise filtering out kid noise though)

It's progress that not everyone thinks the sound of a tablet is worse than the sound of a crying child,

THESE ARE NOT THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS.
It is not a binary situation.

Seriously to the past poster uk society is not child centred at all. Anywhere else in Europe is so more child friendly.

Remember 7 years ago before mobile phone games and iPads when all public spaces were full of screaming children all day long?

No neither do I.

Stop talking like people want to take us back to the victorian era. The first iPad was released only 7 years ago. 7 years. The world wasn't full of screaming children 7 years ago was it?

It's really annoying. Very small children don't care about having the sound on, if they're old enough to care about the sound then they're old enough to wear headphones.

Have to say I've encountered far more teens and adults playing annoying tinny music either without headphones or with headphones but the volume is so loud everyone can still hear it.!

Seriously to the past poster uk society is not child centred at all. Anywhere else in Europe is so more child friendly

What a cliche. Why do people think that? It's not true. I don't know a single French child that would be allowed to watch an ipad in a restaurant!

Anywhere else in Europe is so more child friendly.

I remember the restaurant I went to in France last summer. Full of children in the evening.........sat at the table talking to their parents and not a mobile device in sight. No children were running around. They sat at the table and joined in with the conversation. None of them were screaming and crying.

People are so unaccomodating of everything now days. Flying back from holiday tgere was a boy of about 7 playing a computer game. He was wearing noise blocking headphones constantly waving his hands and making airplane noises to go with his game. He quite clearly was non verbal with special needs. Didn't bother me. Yes I would prefer to travel in quiet but I'm not in a private jet! Didn't stop people making nasty comments though about the noise. Maybe if we learned a bit more torrelance we would all be a bit less stressed

Sorry ZZZZZ, I apologise.

I hate it. I wont go anywhere without IPod now as I need to drown out noisy fucking attention seekers who want to be seen and heard all the time and if they can't, they'll aim to do it via their kids. I took great pleasure last Saturday when family sat opposite me, parents talking louder than the kids actually and fussing about giving kids some electronic game or other..and slowly putting in my earphones choosing my favourite track and sublimely looking out of the window at scenery. Their faces were a picture. That means they WANTED to be seen and heard.. Fuck off..you're a legend in your own world but not mine

Someone points out that something that you can control annoying many other people and your attitude is that everyone else should just suck it up. These children will grow up to be even more entitled than their parents

A tablet on the lowest audible volume is very different to a tablet 'blaring'. Asking someone to put it on mute is as ridiculous as asking them to stop their conversation because their voice bothers you, or to put their crisps away because the smell annoys you. It's rude and petty.

I suggest you practice tuning out quiet electronic noise. You can't eliminate it from your environment. Lots of things irritate me on public transport, so I shift my focus elsewhere.