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**Posting for traffic** tricked by social services

102 replies

TaliaAlCool · 31/07/2017 11:45

This is a last resort believe me I never thought in my worst nightmares I would have to post this.

My story is extremely outing so I can't give details but I need help.

Is anyone a senior social services manager or worker or a solicitor or someone who thinks they can help and pm me?

My social worker has a personal vendetta against me (I only had her originally because I fled to a refuge, no neglect or abuse from me)

I'm on the brink of losing everything because of her lies and tricks. Who do I go to when all the professionals believe her because of her position?

Please pm me if you think you can advise.

  • a desperate mother
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mrscropley · 31/07/2017 11:50

Have you seen a solicitor? They could involve cafcass maybe?

Sirzy · 31/07/2017 11:51

You need to seek proper advice through the right channels.

I doubt any social worker worth their salt will respond to an annoymous forum post like this.

Nickname0 · 31/07/2017 11:55

Taliaalcool I remember your posts previously and you had advice on some issues but unsure if it's the same situation

MondieBee · 31/07/2017 11:56

I agree you need to get some proper advice.
Try ringing these people www.frg.org.uk

HoneyIshrunktheBiscuit · 31/07/2017 11:58

You need to speak to @spero

PurpleDaisies · 31/07/2017 11:58

I agree with sirzy, you have to go through proper channels-you can't trust people are who the say they are or know what they're talking about on an anonymous forum.

Could you look at getting an advocate to help you?

ComtesseDeSpair · 31/07/2017 12:01

Do you have an advocate or somebody providing you with independent support? Somebody who can help you shape a formal complaint against your social worker in a way which isn't "she has lied and tricked me and wants to steal my children" - because honestly, you'll have zero credibility if you make that your approach. The Family Rights Group are a good resource for advice and advocacy: www.frg.org.uk/about-us

Miserylovescompany2 · 31/07/2017 12:12

Have children's services applied to the courts? Do you have legal representation?

Have you taken your concern(s) regarding the allocated social worker to their line manager?

Sorry for all the questions.

I'm not a social worker btw.

Fairenuff · 31/07/2017 12:16

Who do I go to when all the professionals believe her because of her position?

Who have you tried so far?

AngelaoftheNorth · 31/07/2017 12:23

Get a solicitor. Could the refuge advise you on finding a good local one? And I agree, @spero is fantastic - I know her IRL too.

As a word of caution, too (and I am sure you know this)... there's often some very unhelpful and inaccurate advice given out online. If anyone PMs you claiming to be in the know, do check their credentials.

Birdsgottaf1y · 31/07/2017 12:24

As an Ex CP SW, the best advice is to get a Solicitor.

Everything presented to a Court has to be evidence based, if you are saying that what is being presented is wrong, then you need someone who can legally challenge what is being presented and who can make sure that all alternatives etc have been explored.

jaynelovesagathachristie · 31/07/2017 12:27

I agree as an ex cp sw as well you have to get a solicitor

GirlOnATrainToShite · 31/07/2017 12:28

You are perfectly within your rights to request another Social Worker.

Notreallyarsed · 31/07/2017 12:29

Having been in a position where I have witnessed directly a situation where a SW abused their power, I'd suggest legal advice, quickly. I don't know what your situation is, but if you need help regarding hearings then a solicitor is the way to go.

HoneyIshrunktheBiscuit · 31/07/2017 12:38

She can request a new social worker for her child but she doesn't have a right to a new one. She'd have to make the case for why a new social worker is in the best i streets of a child - saying 'this social worker is lying and out to get me' will get op nowhere in terms of changing social workers.

SerfTerf · 31/07/2017 12:47

Which region are you in?

If you're SE, try Sarah Harman.

Birdsgottaf1y · 31/07/2017 12:56

If the situation is about to escalate to the LA applying to remove the child, then a new SW wouldn't be granted.

A lot of Parents lose residency because they don't do what they need to and getting a Solicitor and taking their advice is a must. Some people find an Advocate useful.

Notreallyarsed · 31/07/2017 13:04

In Scotland you can ask for a safeguarder to be appointed for the child/children. A completely impartial person to anyone but the child/children. I'm not sure if the same applies in England/Wales/NI but it might be worth looking into. Also, you can get a children's advocate.

blueskyinmarch · 31/07/2017 13:11

I am a social worker. Can i ask- is this your personal SW or the SW for your children you are talking about? I would request a meeting with the social work management in writing noting all the points you would like addressed. There will be a complaints procedure if you are not satisfied with the outcome of this.

Without any details it is hard to say if you are justified in your complaints or if the SW is acting in the best interests of your children and you just don't agree with her assessment. I agree with other pp that getting legal advice will also be a good idea.

AdalindSchade · 31/07/2017 13:16

If you are about to lose your child to foster care then you must have a solicitor and legal aid. We cannot advise anything other than follow your solicitor's advice.
If your children's social worker is presenting evidence that is untrue or inaccurate your barrister will pull it apart in court.
If you want to ask about the process or your entitlements you can post on this thread and I'll answer as best I can but I won't PM you or give any specific advice that is likely to be wrong given that I don't know your situation

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 31/07/2017 13:29

Given the circumstances, it sounds like you would be entitled to legal aid.

If you go on the law societies (England and Wales and Scotland - they are separate) and search for solicitors specialising in family law in your area, you will be able to get much better specialised advise tailored to your specific situation. Cases like this are heavily fact specific and you will get the best help from someone who can assess all the papers and circumstances and talk to you face to face. In addition, you will know that the person is legally qualified and insured. There is very variable advice here, often given by non-legally qualified posters which is confused and confusing

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 31/07/2017 13:30

advice

youarenotkiddingme · 31/07/2017 13:33

I agree with getting legal support.

Make sure you present evidence not arguments. You can ask how SW came to conclusions about things and then present the evidence to show a different perspective.

Sadly I've also been on the receiving end of authorities twisting evidence to their advantage rather than providing support.
How I kept it secret I work for the same authority in a different area through the whole thing I'll never know!

TaliaAlCool · 31/07/2017 16:57

To answer a few questions..

I have a solicitor but they are currently trying to get through the mounting applications made by abusive ex.
I called frg so thank you to those who suggested that, they gave some advice.
I have requested another social worker without success so far.
I do have evidence in the form of recorded conversations but it's my understanding these aren't permissible in court?
I have requested meetings and called and left messages with managers several times a week to no avail so far.
Can I get legal aid for a case against social services? I was under the impression legal aid was only for civil matters?

Thank you for all your suggestions so far.

And to the person who read my post and decided the best thing to do with their day was try to correct my grammar, I'm pretty sure you're actually wrong. I asked if anyone could advise me, asking if anyone could advice me would be incorrect but thanks anyway that was super helpful.

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TaliaAlCool · 31/07/2017 16:59

My mistake you were correcting yourself gobbolino
Please accept my apologies I'm trying to read and take this in very quickly. So sorry.

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