Professional Northerners

[DonaldStott]

Disclaimer - I am a Northerner, but I cannot fucking stand these people. Jason Manford, peter kay, shelley lindsay, paddy mcguinness, 'ooh I'm so northern I go the chippy for me breakfast', ooh only northerners get me cos I'm so northern',

Fuck off.

Only because I have just heard jason manford on the radio making up his northern stories that never happened and it really annoyed me

I'm from Yorkshire, but I don't sound like it. I find the comedians listed really boring, but it's mostly because observational comedy is not my fave. I love the North, when I hear an accent it's like I'm home. I studied and worked in the south for about 8 years and there was a few times I'd bond with people just over northerness.

I do still get a bit chippy, I encounter a fair bit of 'oh you have art/culture in the regions' and I find it tedious. So I understand why people cling to their northern identity.

Scaryclown just wondering, did you watch/enjoy The Royle Family back in the day? I've never heard anybody say they didn't rate it but it seems to be the epitome of 'pointedly real, working class' entertainment.
I'm happy to see some many Boltonians on a single thread. Meet up at The Vaults anyone?

I grew up in Dorset, where anything north of Bristol was considered The North. I now live in the north west, still get called a southern softy. My daughter is a hardy northerner though. I'm a bit sad she'll probably never say 'where's it to?'
Still struggle to understand the scouse accent sometimes, it's like there's a delay while my ears are busy working out what's been said. A lot of the northern accents on tv don't seem quite real. But then I guess it's true of some of the southern ones too.

*So many Boltonians

Salford, central? As in Midlands? 😂

All of Manchester, Salford included, is in Northwest England.

When you're referring to England (Scotland is not included as that of course if part of GB, not England) so Manchester is nowhere near central.

Anywhere past the Watford Gap is North.

I think, for me, it's a bit like someone saying 'ooh I'm mad me' or 'what am i like' when they've just done something fairly everyday and innocuous. But only in the context of 'only in XXXX, wouldn't get that anywhere else'.

Of course Salford's in the bloody north west of England! I can understand people trying to claim the likes of Crewe or Congleton as being in the Midlands, but Salford???

I absolutely loathe the Gallaghers oafish swagger, not least because there seemed to be loads of girls in the mid-90s who actually found that laddish bullshit attractive. I'd spent years being bullied by people of that ilk, and now they seemed to be being lionised...

Anywhere past the Watford Gap is North.

Anywhere south of Chesterfield is the South

Babiamajora The vaults?!

What about one in Hogarths then over to Bamboogie ? 😁

YABU - I love the people you mentioned and know lots of people who talk and act like that. Noel and Liam Gallagher are extreme versions but their accents and the way they act are very true of a lot of guys round here.

I live in Manchester and work in Salford😍

Oh this has cheered me up
Demi the Cheryl thing you refer to is true! Try and get chips and gravy down south - doesn't happen. I loved the Peter Kay sketch 'do y'do owt moist?' about being in a London chippy. My best friend lived in Kent for years and I was astounded that it was allowed to happen

Actual snorting at Salford being in the midlands too. Salford - home of the MEN arena. Just because somewhere is only a certain distance from another place doesn't mean it's the same eg Manchester/Liverpool

I think some of the acts mentioned can be a bit cringey because it's taken many years of convincing other people that we don't all wear flat caps, walk our whippets and work down mines-then along come these comedians who infer that actually yes! we still do and isn't it funny.

It's the same as east London 'pie and mash' pearly queens stuff though I suppose.

Agador you're on - who doesn't love a bamboogie?

I'm from Essex. I don't have a Towie accent. Some people do in certain parts but it's not as strong as the Towiee one so they do exaggerate it on TV. My accent is more Suffolk as I am from North Essex. My DP is from just outside Newcastle and his accent ramps up when we go to the North East. I love it.
Basically, growing up I thought my cousins in Nottingham were Northern. Still do.

*Cilla was also one of the worst professional northerners. Her accent was totally put on. She's not lived in Liverpool for years.

She's not lived anywhere for years.*

Was a typo that should have said she'd. I did actually acknowledge that a couple of posts later.

I really want to smash the TV when I see and hear professional foreign chefs with the deliberately heavy accent.

You surely don't mean Raymond Blanc? You can't mean Raymond Blanc! I could sit there and listen to him say "Oh la la" all night

*I am a Mancunian thru and thru, very proud of it but the funniest description of Manchester I ever heard was Anthony Wilson saying

"Ahhhh Manchester, now there's a city that's never had a problem with self esteem' *

Ha ha. Love that Jam Rock.
I remember seeing Les Dawson in pantomime at the Palace Theatre years ago and he described Manchester as "Stockport with O-levels"

I kind of agree with OP, although I don't feel too strongly about it. I have always lived in the North - originally from the area around Yorkshire (though never quite in Yorkshire) but have spent all my adult life in the North West. TBH I have noticed more professional Yorkshiremen than professional Mancunions or whatever.

Not RTFT yet but when I saw the thread I thought Michael Parkinson, Alan Titchmarsh, Alan Bennett and John Bishop.

FWIW, Vernon Kaye, Peter Kay, Lee Mack, Jason Manford ... seem OK.

I am Northern ( Manchester and Oldham)
I love Peter Kay although I am not as entrenched in my northern roots as he is.
Most regions have their professional 'proud to be' types'
Sometimes it is annoying but if they are funny I quite like it,

I would say Crewe and Congleton were NW but Newcastle-UNDER-LYNE is Midlands. Big shouty capitals before someone says it's in the North East. Derby I would say was Midlands.

Newcastle under LYME. Ashton under LYNE.

Happy Yorkshire Day.

Damn spellchecker.

Well said @wildbhoys. Exactly what i was going to say. Someone missed the point of the thread and decided to get tore in instead! Eejit!

I read somewhere recently about somewhere a 3 hour drive north of Edinburgh, and I thought that can't be right. Then I looked at a map.
Is Billy Connolly a professional Glaswegian? Are there professional irishpeople? Does it only apply if they're all "I'm oop north me" when they probably haven't been north of Luton since 1989?