To think it's pathetic to take drugs on a night out ...

[Ashkey234]

She's 31 and until she met this new girl she never took drugs.
Now every time she goes out with her she takes Coke.
Every 30 minutes going to the toilet taking more.
I'm starting to dislike her because of it,I know that sounds awful but she's always jumping around after it,sweating,sniffing,bleeding nose and I just think she's Pathetic.
Both 31,she has 3 kids and I think your a mother and doing that.
I love a night out,cocktails etc but I'm honestly thinking of ending our friendship.
What's your opinions?

I don't think it's quite so black and white. (I don't drink or use any drugs, btw.) As a doctor, I've seen the damage they can do in the short and longer term.

Some people feel they need it to enjoy themselves. Some people feel it's their only relief from mental anguish. And it's not always easy to ask for help.

You'll find clever and less clever people, interesting and dull people and all other sorts who fall prey to drugs.

I can empathise with those who take drugs as well as those who avoid them when they're high.

Coke cut with whatever. Or too pure. How do you know your fun night out isn't going to kill you. And no that's not me saying legalise it.
Weird how some posters are attempting to normalise it.

I find most people a bit unbearable if they've had a lot of anything.

A nice school mum after a glass of wine is lovely. After 3 funny, a bit tipsy, tells you that they love you, after many, they are bladdered and being a pain, soon vomiting?

Drugs is the same. A tiny bit they are perfectly pleasant. A lot and they are a pain!'

MrsTerryPratchett Mon 24-Jul-17 18:47:59
Until very recently rape in marriage was legal and consensual gay sex was illegal. Only very silly people think legal = right and illegal = wrong.

Don't be silly.

@user1492877024 why silly?

What have I said that's not true? Or relevant?

Alcohol = Legal

Coke = Illegal

What is there not to understand?

What other laws do you not agree with or understand? Speed limits perhaps? I really hope you don't have children. What example do you' think you're setting?

When I buy a bottle of beer from a bar it comes as a known entity. I know it has beer in it and how many units are in it.

Buying coke from criminals I have no idea what's in it, we had a recent spate of mdma deaths round here due to poisoning.

I've written policy briefs about laws I don't agree with. Law changes over time.

And don't hope other people don't have children. That's a really low personal attack.

Oh and I known my beer isn't a consequence of people trafficking/rape/murder/imprisonment/gang violence.

Your chocolate might be. Plenty of child slavery involved in that.

Again, I do think the supply chain is a massive issue. But if you don't care about the supply chain as it pertains to yourself, you're a hypocrite. Not floating this applies to you personally.

I try very hard to buy ethical produce, I've boycotted nestle for this reason. If I find out a company is unethical I don't use them.
I KNOW cocaine hasn't come from ethical sources, so I stay away, for this same reason.

I find most people a bit unbearable if they've had a lot of anything.

A nice school mum after a glass of wine is lovely. After 3 funny, a bit tipsy, tells you that they love you, after many, they are bladdered and being a pain, soon vomiting?

Drugs is the same. A tiny bit they are perfectly pleasant. A lot and they are a pain!'

Agree with this^^. But, I don't think anyone in the history of the planet has stopped at one small line of coke! Ok, probably someone has, but you know what I mean. I don't know that much about it, but based on friends who use it, it seems extremely hard to stop after a line. My understanding is that there is an almost immediate comedown, (or just going back to normal after feeling like they're suddenly awesome), which it's natural to want to avoid. So, if there's more coke available, you will probably want to have it, until you have none left.

Shocked at the daft comments from people comparing having a few glasses of wine to be a habitual taker of recreational drugs.

The word pedantic comes to mind.

Decaffstilltastesweird

You are absolutely right. I haven't done Coke in over a decade now and have no desire to anymore, but if you have Coke on a night out and taking it, chances are unless you find some on you that you didn't know you had, you would not be going home with any and wanting and craving more once it's all gone.

YANBU by the way OP. Your friend sounds like a moron.

Alcohol is a recreational drug.

Good grief this has all got a bit heated hasn't it?

My ex took every drug under the sun that didn't involve a needle. Honestly, it made him very, very dull. It didn't help that his mates all thought that they were the coolest kids on the planet for having a bingey night on the pills. In the end I gave him an ultimatum, the drugs or me. It wasn't because they were illegal, but he was just so deadly dull to be around. After a glass of wine he was hilarious. After a line, a bore. I also found there was a weird superiority thing about the fact he and his mates all did drugs and I didn't touch them - the way they behaved put me off tbh - which really irritates me; it's a bit the same as people who don't do them looking down on people who don't, people who don't drink looking down on people who do etc etc.

The issue isn't what your friend does but that how you feel about it. You don't feel you have shared values anymore. so tell her that. In a non-judgy way. After all, as the post proves, there are plenty of people who would judge you for your views & resultant behaviour.

'Alcohol is a recreation drug'

I rest my case: pedantic.

I fear for humanity if you believe what you are actually spouting.

That using cocaine and the like is the same as having a couple of glasses of wine.

I know what I would rather my (adult) kids were consuming. If you are comparing drinking a few glasses of wine to taking cocaine, then I fear for you - and any children you have - or may ever have.

MrsTerryPratchett Mon 24-Jul-17 19:37:11
Alcohol is a recreational drug

A legal one too. The scary thing is, is that you just don't get it, do you?

The really worrying thing is @MrsTerryPratchett doesn't get it.

VERY worrying, that ANYone would think like this.

BossaDad

Lol. Very worrying indeed.

It's so so funny when people say "I wouldn't be friends with someone who did illegal drugs". A sad loss^^ to absolutely nobody at all.

By the way OP, you hardly sound like the most selfless mother yourself.

It's the violence and corruption that cocaine funds is what bothers me most. Right down to the families that grow/harvest it the deaths and gang violence it causes. It doesn't just appear from no where. It's often the cause of much misery, thousands of miles away. Rich British professionals who take it for "a bit of a buzz" will never feel thethe ramifications. My dd's dad is central American/Dominican and he had somea absolutely blood curdling experiences growing up, and he wasnt even from "the barrio", he was from a middle class family.

Probably get called a boring twat now by someone who likes a bit of charlie every time they go out occasionally. But eh, we're all entitled to an opinion.

What are your thoughts on the consequences of the cocaine supply chain?

The reason that the cocaine supply chain is so damaging is because it's illegal.

I did a fair bit of coke in my 30s, I found it pretty hard to break the pattern but I did it. I won't touch it now because it is pretty psychologically addictive and paradoxically, it makes you fat (you feel like shite the next day, eat your way through it, and can't exercise for 2 weeks without fear of a heart attack). All in all, it's quite a bore.

Alcoholics are boring too, though.