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To think it's pathetic to take drugs on a night out ...

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 16:10

She's 31 and until she met this new girl she never took drugs.
Now every time she goes out with her she takes Coke.
Every 30 minutes going to the toilet taking more.
I'm starting to dislike her because of it,I know that sounds awful but she's always jumping around after it,sweating,sniffing,bleeding nose and I just think she's Pathetic.
Both 31,she has 3 kids and I think your a mother and doing that.
I love a night out,cocktails etc but I'm honestly thinking of ending our friendship.
What's your opinions?

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:19

Just read a article about a student nurse 23 who died after taking 3 lines of Coke laced with levamisole which is used to treat worms in animals ..
The coroners report cause of death ..Coke usage

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AnneGrommit · 24/07/2017 22:20

Agree re The War On Drugs (tm). This is the thing that causes a lot of the problems in producer countries. Take the rackets out of the equation and you stop countless deaths. People will always take drugs. People will always supply drugs. Willingly allowing that supply to be controlled by ruthless criminals is madness.

RuncibleSp00n · 24/07/2017 22:20

And I don't mean to sound rude, but it's slightly amusing suggesting that you (unlike me, is the tacit implication) have a brain, when your posts are littered with the spelling mistakes and flawed logic of someone who appears pretty stoned or drunk. Yes OP, you have a high-functioning brain (unlike my drug-addled brain which struggles with the basics such as reading the back of my methadone bottle Hmm

DioneTheDiabolist · 24/07/2017 22:20

OP, what do you think the chances are that you will see your friend in an early grave due to coke compared to alcoholism/smoking/use of prescription or even non prescription drugs?

Bitchfromhell · 24/07/2017 22:21

Op not really sure how you can refer to her as a friend when you have such a poor attitude to her personal problems.

Poor girl, not only is she developing a drug addiction, she also has to deal with her so called friend believing she is pathetic, stupid, brain dead etc. I hope she has some real friends that have empathy, respect and really care about her.

You said on page 2 that you didn't want to be judgemental. I'm not sure what you meant by that now?

Fruitcorner123 · 24/07/2017 22:22

if i drink 4 units of alcohol once a week that's not equivalent in risk or danger to snorting 4 lines of coke once a week. Also the comedown from cocaine can last days even with only moderate to light use. For the comedown from alcohol to be that great you would have to have drunk vast amounts. How are the friends children supposed to cope while their mother is on this comedown. Why is that ok? A hangover from alcohol by the way would also be a bad thing for her children to see, especially if happening regularly. My objection to cocaine doesn't mean I don't also object to excessive alcohol consumption. Both are harmful and clearly the OPs friend has a problem if she is getting aggressive and 'needs' it on a night out

Not to mention the fact that it is illegal and people will have died and risked their lives so that she can snort it.

m.talktofrank.com/drug/cocaine?detail=risks

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:22

I think more chance of her dying by snorting Coke than having 2 cocktails on a night out ...

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:23

I've told her exactly what I think of her using drugs,it is pathetic.
If you can't go out without snorting crap it's a sad state of affairs

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:25

No matter how you try and sugarcoat things 1 glass of wine does not match the same risk as snorting Coke.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 24/07/2017 22:26

MDMA is pure E. For the PP who asked.

Cocaine is VERY addictive but is not physically addictive like alcohol. Alcohol withdrawal can kill you. Because it is very, very physically addictive.

And OP, if you are actually worried about your friend's clearly problematic drug use, calling her use 'pathetic' and writing a thread on MN is not the way to help. It is the way to be a judgmental goady fucker.

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:27

I'm not talking about someone who is a alcoholic tho am I?
I'm saying someone going on a social night out and having 2 drinks is not and never will be the same as someone snorting Coke.

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KimchiLaLa · 24/07/2017 22:28

Actually I agree. I had a friend who just took drugs recreationally. She can survive without them but would always say she was bored without them. That's pathetic.

MargaretTwatyer · 24/07/2017 22:29

I wouldn't be particularly worried about it killing her, but I would worry about it's effects on her mental health. Even a few lines has a dramatic effect on mental functioning and the come downs are pretty awful and much worse when not in the first flush of youth.

Even if she has a babysitter at the weekend it is still going to be negatively affecting her parenting days later.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 24/07/2017 22:30

mrst

So heroin is also very physically addictive. Is that right

That may be where i have got the coke not being addictive from

Fruitcorner123 · 24/07/2017 22:32

Alcohol withdrawal can kill you

Alcohol addiction is a dreadful thing and has caused many people to lose their lives it is not what the OP posted about though, her friend is potentially addicted to cocaine. Alcohol abuse is not relevant here.

The OP has never said alcohol abuse is acceptable or ok. She has said she has a couple of cocktails. I can't believe there are so many people trying to justify their use of cocaine by saying "you might die if you use alcohol" the vast majority of people who use alcohol don't have serious health implications. The same cannot be said for class A drugs.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/07/2017 22:34

So heroin is also very physically addictive. Is that right Not as physically addictive as alcohol but yes, fairly bad.

I think people emote about this subject instead of thinking. Talking about how drugs affect us, what they do and how to deal with it is important. When I say that coke is less physically addictive than alcohol, I'm not saying, 'and therefore fill your boots'. It's just something to know. And it's important because a coke addict can go cold turkey but an alcoholic shouldn't. Because they could die. Heroin addict can but it will hurt. A lot.

Fattywattyswalkofshame · 24/07/2017 22:35

Boots they hurt a lot of people.

As pointed out numerous times, they hurt the people all the way up the drugs chain. (The innocent ones who get caught up in it including children)

They hurt the people who have to endure their wanky bulshit.

They hurt their families when they spend so much money on the crap.

They hurt themselves when they overdose.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/07/2017 22:38

And for the third time (I think) I don't use cocaine. And for the record, I find people that do quite boring.

I think that calling a 'friend' pathetic for their problematic use of any substance is really awful. And doing it while taking a harmful drug is hypocritical. If you take any mind-altering substance it is LUCK that prevents addiction. So the OP could have become an alcoholic, just as her friend appears to be having serious issues with cocaine.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 24/07/2017 22:39

mrst

Very interesting

That's obviously where i got it from, i had in my head that one go of heroin could get you addicted when you could try coke a few times

As i said i am very ignorant about these things so thank you for your patience

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:39

Well I would rather take my chances with a strawberry woo woo than worming medication for horses ...

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MrsTerryPratchett · 24/07/2017 22:42

No worries @Rufustherenegadereindeer1. I just learned how to administer Narcan so every day is a school day for all of us.

Fruitcorner123 · 24/07/2017 22:44

Hard to know what support to offer your friend OP it's well known that addicts have to decide for themselves to give up

I.would just say that despite your use of words like 'pathetic' I believe you truly care about your friend and think people are being harsh, you are understandably angry with her.

You have been honest about your opinion with her so I would just let her know that if she needs you for support in quitting in the future you will be there but you won't be going on nights out. I would also say do your best to ensure her kids are not affected (not easy) and if it ever feel they are that's when you need to intervene.

HoneyDragon · 24/07/2017 22:46

I agree about Fentanyl, MrsTP its evil stuff Sad

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:46

I do care about my friend.
I think her actions are pathetic not the person she is.
This isn't her ..she's trying to fit in with a crowd of people who have been in and out of jail.
They dragging her down and she is a good mum.

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DioneTheDiabolist · 24/07/2017 22:50

OP, you have assessed the risk of 2 cocktails and deemed it so low that you are happy enough to take that risk. You are at greater risk than if you had no alcohol. Your friend has assessed the risk of taking cocaine and, like you with your alcohol intake, has deemed it so low that she is happy to take it.

Do you think it is reasonable for a teetotaller to consider you "pathetic" for choosing to drink at all?