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To think it's pathetic to take drugs on a night out ...

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 16:10

She's 31 and until she met this new girl she never took drugs.
Now every time she goes out with her she takes Coke.
Every 30 minutes going to the toilet taking more.
I'm starting to dislike her because of it,I know that sounds awful but she's always jumping around after it,sweating,sniffing,bleeding nose and I just think she's Pathetic.
Both 31,she has 3 kids and I think your a mother and doing that.
I love a night out,cocktails etc but I'm honestly thinking of ending our friendship.
What's your opinions?

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Beelzebop · 24/07/2017 22:51

Ashkey, forgetting the moral side, your friend is obviously injuring herself. Nosebleeds do not happen every time you do Coke. I think before you chuck the friendship have one last attempt. Be honest, maybe she needs a kick in the reality organ. I'm not anti drugs, whether they are alcohol, paracetamol or cannabis. However, if I had a friend abusing any drug I would have a word. X

Bitchfromhell · 24/07/2017 22:51

I think that slagging a friend off for any reason anonymously is pathetic. I don't believe stumbling into drug addiction is pathetic.

If you are genuinely worried about her you could have used this thread as a way to find out how you could help her.

To repeatedly bitch about her when she obviously has a problem and to do it here, is poor form and not making the best of this forum. If you feel so strongly why not have a conversation with the person in question, to her face?

You don't appear to be very caring at all. I think you should probably make her aware of your feelings about her and let her make her own mind up about your future friendship.

She sounds like she needs kindness and humanity, not your judgement and vitriol.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/07/2017 22:52

"In 2012, 3.3 million deaths, or 5.9 percent of all global deaths (7.6 percent for men and 4.0 percent for women), were attributable to alcohol consumption." All illegal drugs TOGETHER cause 1/4 million deaths annually.

From the WHO.

You can pretend that alcohol is better than cocaine but it's the USE rather than the substance that causes issues.

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:53

I'm not continuing going round in circles ..alcohol in moderation is not the same as Coke laced with God knows what.
Can you hand on heart say you believe 2 alcoholic drinks carries the same risk of 2 lines of Coke?
Seriously?

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Fruitcorner123 · 24/07/2017 22:56

mrsterryoratchett but these sttistics alone are misleading as we can assume a large percentage of adults use alcohol. Far larger than the percentage who use cocaine or any other class A drug.

The comparison is not useful and not relevant as the OP has never claimed alcohol is safe.

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:56

We all have our opinions on what we think is correct.
We don't have to agree.
Each to their own.
Me personally would take my chances with a cocktail rather than a line of Coke.
If you would prefer the Coke then that's your choice.

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Miffer · 24/07/2017 22:56

Can you hand on heart say you believe 2 alcoholic drinks carries the same risk of 2 lines of Coke?

Why do you need to make alcohol okay?

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 22:58

Obviously if someone drinks 1 bottle of vodka a day it's going to cause them liver disease eventually.
I didn't say alcohol was ok ,I said out of both of them which is more dangerous.

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tatty1010 · 24/07/2017 22:59

Is this the friend you were worried about yesterday who's boyfriend was arrested for touching a minor? If so she could probably do with a decent friend right now to support her

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/07/2017 22:59

I believe that's not the point. You can't compare a 1/4 gram of heroin and a line of coke and a shot of whiskey and an E and talk about harm.

The harm comes from a number of places:

  1. Does it kill you easily
  2. Does it have seriously and/or long-lasting effects
  3. Is it physically addictive
  4. Is it psychologically addictive
  5. Do you have a predisposition to addiction
  6. Does the drug in question cause harm to others
  7. Is it cut/adulterated/not what you were told
  8. Have you had periods of abstinence/are you using at a level that you can't
  9. Do you have a safe location to use with people who would assist you
10. Are you mixing

I've worked with many many addicts and drug of choice really isn't a as big a factor as you would think in whether they get addicted in the first place and whether they recover.

HoneyDragon · 24/07/2017 23:01

Plus, many posters were responding to the ops insistence that mothers using drugs on a night out in particular is pathetic.

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 23:01

She doesn't know what it's mixed with...she could be sniffing anything

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Miffer · 24/07/2017 23:03

Ashkey234

If it were me who had made this thread I would have shut down the alcohol stuff with "yes that's bad too but I am worried about coke". You keep engaging with it and justifying it.

In my experience drinkers hate any suggestion that their drug of choice is even on the same plane as an illegal drug. Hence all the disingenuous nonsense about supply chains. Amazing how people care so much about ethical consumption when it can be used to differentiate their drug use from somebody elses.

Fruitcorner123 · 24/07/2017 23:04

Is she mixing with alcohol as well?

And it is harming others because it will be having an effect on her children and is clearly damaging her relationships.

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 23:05

and druggies try and justify taking drugs by playing the alcohol card.

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 23:06

She is drinking around 7 pints / wine /vodka red bull with up to 6/7 lines of Coke per night

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Fruitcorner123 · 24/07/2017 23:06

miffer it was other posters who suggested that the OPs 2 cocktails made her a hypocrite.

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 23:06

Well last night she couldn't sleep and was wide awake all night so her kids had to go to their dads as she was too exhausted to get up..so I bet that's something to do with the Coke the night before

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Miffer · 24/07/2017 23:08

and druggies try and justify taking drugs by playing the alcohol card.

Do they? Well I am neither a drinker or a drug taker.

Neither are many of the other posters pointing out the flaws in the logic.

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 23:08

2 strawberry woo woo every month/2 months doesn't make me phone in sick for work and not be in a fit state to look after my kids

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MrsTerryPratchett · 24/07/2017 23:08

and druggies try and justify taking drugs by playing the alcohol card. Except that most of the people arguing with you don't use drugs.

Nice use of 'druggies' BTW. Your prejudice is showing.

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 23:08

No logic in comparing 2 drinks to Coke

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Strokethefurrywall · 24/07/2017 23:09

Well this has been a fun read.

But I have to agree with everything MrsTerryPratchett said...

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 23:10

Think what you like,I can sleep sound knowing I don't need horse worming medication up my nose to have fun (yes I have 2 cocktails tho and yes it's a drug and yes I might get addicted blah blah)

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Ashkey234 · 24/07/2017 23:11

A little off subject but I witnessed a woman with 2 toddlers and a 6 month ish baby in the chemist getting her methadone...
Is this ok too?

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