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I dont want to work

565 replies

LadyOfPleisure · 24/07/2017 00:58

I have moved heaven and earth, done extra studying, to return to work in a fulfilling and interesting career. I should pat myself on the back, and be bloody glad, but I am not. I am earning reasonably well per month, and it is not full time but 60%. In a standard week I will work from around 11.30 three days per week, and from 7.30 two days per week, until 16.30 all days. So two long days, and 3 short days.
I am a well educated woman, with a bachelor and two master degrees. Still studying modules, to add to my qualifications. Being an airbnb hostess because I like to have guests to broaden our horizons, and I like the extra income.

Dh travels a lot with his job, I do the lion share of after school activities and sports. My two dc are different ages, and they do the same sport but at different times, in a different place twice and three times per week. The older one can cycle, or take the bus, the younger one cant. They need to have dinner before they go, as activities are around 6pm, lasting 60-120 minutes. The older play at regional level. This will mean that ds1 (15) will need to sort dinner for the two of them at least once a week.

My dh earns more per week than I do per month. We dont need me working to make ends meet. I took a long career break when the dc were small. I felt it is my turn now, before I get too old. I have retrained, and worked hard, and I am enjoying my first proper summer holiday in years. I dont want it to end. Part of me want to continue just doing what I want! Relax, chill, enjoy my kids. I go back to work first of August, and I just want to .... resign. I want to STILL be there when they get home from school, cook their dinners, get them to their sports, and be there. I know it is silly.

The feminist in me is angry with myself. The lazy gobshite in me wants to raise my glass to egocentricity. I want to go to the gym when it is empty, go for coffee, go shopping....
All my friends work, so it will be lonely...

Dh is happy for me. He says I should absolutely go out there, enjoy adult company, have good colleagues like he has, and not waste my brain at home.

Only, reality is that he wont be around to help with much. He tries, but he has a demanding job. At his level, although his boss is flexible, he is working with both the US office and the UK, and his hours are long when he is home. He cant just cut a conference call to the US and say "sorry chaps, got to take my kid to sports, my wife is knackered".

First world problem, I know. And I am 45. It is now or never. So why am I so sad, and why do I dread going back to work so much, I spent the last 8 years moaning that I am "nothing but a mum and have no life at all"!?

OP posts:
Puffpaw · 25/07/2017 13:37

If the wage is not needed, why is it so looked down on to be sahp? all must be sacrificed before the alter of capitalism! It is the only way capitalism can continue. Interestingly there was an article on the Beeb today saying having more time made people happy not money. Maybe we will start thinking in terms of time poverty. It is the most finite resource we have.

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 13:40

Work!
Consume!
Die!

Well. Fuck that.

Puffpaw · 25/07/2017 13:41

Hear hear mrsmartell Grin

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 13:41

Derren brown wrote the same in his book "happy"
Dh and I will likely now have to work til we are 68. My dad was dead at 67.
Sobering.

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 13:42

I do apologise btw.
I've been dropping the f bomb a lot on this thread 😁

Babbitywabbit · 25/07/2017 13:45

The OP update with:

"I love being at work when I am at work. My colleagues are great.
My boss will make home made pizza in the staff kitchen for lunch for all the members of staff, when there is a birthday.

I feel privileged that she has taken a chance on me, when I have been out of full time work so long. Part of me is perhaps worried I will screw this up..."

She also mentioned in her first post about her years of studying to get her into her chosen field.

Sounds like a kind of totally understandable wobble she's having, acknowledging that it's things outside her work which will need adjustment in order to give everyone in the family a balanced and fulfilling life.

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 13:45

As I said 45 is peak wobble age 😁

GetAHaircutCarl · 25/07/2017 13:47

Oh I don't work for the cash. Though it's lovely that they pay me well.

I just like it. And I think it brings something reasonably useful to the sum of human existenceSmile.

Babbitywabbit · 25/07/2017 13:54

Getahaircarl- I do work for the cash Grin

But seriously, lots of other reasons too, such as using my qualifications and skills and doing a job which benefits society

(And before anyone jumps down my throats, YY I do lots of things outside my work life which also stimulate my brain and are useful. It's not an either/or)

The comments about capitalism and the rat race are quite bizarre frankly, because unless you were born into independent wealth, presumably you're relying on someone else to 'work, consume, die' to enable you to bypass the work element (though presumably not the consuming and dying Grin )

Anyway, my advice to my dd and ds has always been to aim for a career which will bring them personal satisfaction as given that work is a fact of life to pay the bills, it makes sense to do something you enjoy

WannaBeDelgadaToFitInToMyPrada · 25/07/2017 13:59

It's so true puffpaw, the altar of Capitalism indeed. People are put up in the dock and made to apologise for not worshiping at this alter. Having the audacity to value their time or their hobby or a stressfree existence over MONEY. Why MUST we make the decision to earn as much as possible ?? If any of us is consciously earning less than we might be able to if we arrived earlier, worked harder, stayed later etc... then we have to offer up guilt like catholics offered up their shame to Jesus!

As martell08 says, fuck that.

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 14:01

We work to live
Not the other way round

I've seen what living to work can do to a person/family.

Not pretty

I've only ever worked for the cash btw! 😁

Babbitywabbit · 25/07/2017 14:02

Yeap, me and my dh too MrsMartello. Don't think we're disagreeing after all Smile

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 14:03

Wanna...yes.
It's all a bit....american isn't it??
Can't pay your bills!? Work longer and harder!!
No one else takes annual leave! Why do you??
Sick? Too bad!

Loopytiles · 25/07/2017 14:03

It's not "worshipping at the alter of capitalism" to avoid being financially dependent on a man.

Puffpaw · 25/07/2017 14:04

Well I suppose it's the choice between

  1. live to work,
  2. work to live,
  3. work at what you love.
  4. work for free supported by someone else in a mutually beneficial arrangement If I had a job I did not like I would work to live. Luckily I work at what I love. But make no mistake individual choices and societal pressures from capitalism are not the same thing. Plus all those people doing they paid labour that keeps society going are not exactly passengers, simply taken for granted
Puffpaw · 25/07/2017 14:05

X post with everyone!

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 14:05

Ds1 tells me he might stay on education after all (brexit has scared him :()
Ds2 tells me he will become a "blogger" whatever that is (?) Apparently it involves him and his friend living here though 🤔😂

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 14:06

Loopy....of course dh is dependant on me too....

Loopytiles · 25/07/2017 14:08

If you both do paid work and share wages (or other money, eg inheritance, assets) then yes. If he alone does paid work and you are AHbthen he is not economically or financially dependent on you in the way you are on him.

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 14:11

Dependance takes many forms of course...
Dh would be screwed if I buggered off with a gigolo ok unlikely I know
He would need to hire people to do what I currently do

StealthPolarBear · 25/07/2017 14:12

She didn't say financially dependent, just dependent.
I struggle to understand why it's not OK (and I agree) for one person to shoulder the entire burden of, say, housework or childcare, but it is OK for one individual to shoulder the burden of providing financially for their family. Aren't they equal?

Babbitywabbit · 25/07/2017 14:18

But no one has said it's not ok stealth.

Some of us are just pointing out that many people increasingly want a balance of career/caring/domestic work. And that shouldn't really be a surprise in this day and age. I wouldn't want to work all hours and travel at short notice at the expense of spending time with the kids. Neither would I want to give up my career. Is it any surprise that my dh feels the same?

If a couple are genuinely happy with completely separate roles then that's their business.

But the OP clearly wasn't happy, and considering giving up a career she's studied hard for and enjoys, and it became apparent this was due to external factors which now need adjusting.

StealthPolarBear · 25/07/2017 14:20

I think I agree. I'd not be comfortable with either.

GetAHaircutCarl · 25/07/2017 14:23

I think I would find working to live quite depressing.

If you're there, giving hours to it, it may as well be exciting and useful ( most of the time - all jobs have boring buts I guess).

But the alternative is not living to work. Life is not a set of sound bites.
There's can be plenty of room for a successful career and a happy family life and hobbies etc

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 14:32

Stealth...evidently not!
Unpaid work is not valued despite various posters assertions.
It's really that simple

If i worked more hours I would need paid help with;
Childcare
Housework
Mum

Mum's care would be picked up by the taxpayer of course!

If I were a paid childminder/cleaner/carer then no one on this thread would have an issue.

How sad.