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I dont want to work

565 replies

LadyOfPleisure · 24/07/2017 00:58

I have moved heaven and earth, done extra studying, to return to work in a fulfilling and interesting career. I should pat myself on the back, and be bloody glad, but I am not. I am earning reasonably well per month, and it is not full time but 60%. In a standard week I will work from around 11.30 three days per week, and from 7.30 two days per week, until 16.30 all days. So two long days, and 3 short days.
I am a well educated woman, with a bachelor and two master degrees. Still studying modules, to add to my qualifications. Being an airbnb hostess because I like to have guests to broaden our horizons, and I like the extra income.

Dh travels a lot with his job, I do the lion share of after school activities and sports. My two dc are different ages, and they do the same sport but at different times, in a different place twice and three times per week. The older one can cycle, or take the bus, the younger one cant. They need to have dinner before they go, as activities are around 6pm, lasting 60-120 minutes. The older play at regional level. This will mean that ds1 (15) will need to sort dinner for the two of them at least once a week.

My dh earns more per week than I do per month. We dont need me working to make ends meet. I took a long career break when the dc were small. I felt it is my turn now, before I get too old. I have retrained, and worked hard, and I am enjoying my first proper summer holiday in years. I dont want it to end. Part of me want to continue just doing what I want! Relax, chill, enjoy my kids. I go back to work first of August, and I just want to .... resign. I want to STILL be there when they get home from school, cook their dinners, get them to their sports, and be there. I know it is silly.

The feminist in me is angry with myself. The lazy gobshite in me wants to raise my glass to egocentricity. I want to go to the gym when it is empty, go for coffee, go shopping....
All my friends work, so it will be lonely...

Dh is happy for me. He says I should absolutely go out there, enjoy adult company, have good colleagues like he has, and not waste my brain at home.

Only, reality is that he wont be around to help with much. He tries, but he has a demanding job. At his level, although his boss is flexible, he is working with both the US office and the UK, and his hours are long when he is home. He cant just cut a conference call to the US and say "sorry chaps, got to take my kid to sports, my wife is knackered".

First world problem, I know. And I am 45. It is now or never. So why am I so sad, and why do I dread going back to work so much, I spent the last 8 years moaning that I am "nothing but a mum and have no life at all"!?

OP posts:
annielouise · 25/07/2017 12:50

I used to work in the City and if I left late (before kids) I'd see loads sitting around chatting, reading the paper. I'd tease them "oh, avoiding the kids' bath time, are you". Obvious what they were doing. They could have left earlier. Not all jobs you can but a lot of the guys I worked with could have left at 5pm and picked up from nursery.

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 12:52

I hope so
I hope things are moving in that direction
Competitive hardship? Oh do fuck off

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 12:56

Babbitty...oh come on...compare house prices and childcare costs now to when you had kids!!
"If I can do it you can" is no argument from a bloody baby Boomer!
(Yes I'm sure you work very hard. So does everyone else)

Babbitywabbit · 25/07/2017 12:56

Mrsmartell Charming!! Lol

If you read my post you might understand that I'm not accusing you of playing competitive hardship- I was simply clarifying that Legislation has changed massively for the better over recent years

Getahaircutcarl- completely agree with your posts.

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 12:58

I'm not sure....plenty of posts on mn from women discriminated against after leaving to have kids.
As I said upthread.. .i don't think it's as good as some posters think.. .
(Yes we've come a long way but....)

newbian · 25/07/2017 12:59

annielouise had the same experience in the City. I used to tell my non-City friends "They're not working that hard, they just hate their wives."

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 13:00

Newbian....im sure that's true of some dickheads

GetAHaircutCarl · 25/07/2017 13:00

I think things are changing slowly.

But women can only do so much. The real sea change in work culture will come when men change their working habits.

And some of them ( a lot of them) might have to be given a nudge push in the right direction.

Even my DH who I think is bit of a hero in this regard didn't get up one morning and volunteer to change his work patterns. Basically, I was offered an unbelievable opportunity that anyone would be mad to turn down and DH felt he'd do whatever he could to support me.

He's glad he did. He feels he's been a huge winner in all this.

UsedToBeAPaxmanFan · 25/07/2017 13:01

MrsMartello if you read my earlier post you'd realise I specifically said that I was not referring to people with caring responsibilities. I was referring to the OP who said she wanted to give up work so she could go shopping and go to the gym.

I think unpaid carers do an amazing and thankless task and are undervalued by society.

Babbitywabbit · 25/07/2017 13:01

Childcare costs for private nursery have always been horrendously high - specially with no free hours. Mortgage rates were massively high in the past. So quit the whinging about baby boomers, and you sound a similar age to me anyway from what you've said in previous posts.

I'm not telling anyone how to live their life- just that we all make choices within the parameters available to us. A few of my friends thought I was mad returning to work with a 12 week old baby and paying all my salary in childcare. Or they said 'goodness I couldn't possibly leave my baby when they're so small'. In other words, they made a different choice. Nothing wrong with that, it's just frustrating when people make their choice and then whinge about it

Cailleach666 · 25/07/2017 13:01

babbity But if it sucks, Cailleach, then do something about it!

You are missing my point.

I don't want to be a social crusader.

I am happy with my life. The system is broken, but it's too big a job for me to fix, I'd rather work around it and figure a way to have a happy life - even if that means supporting my OH doing "man hours" - in a job he also happens to love btw.

GetAHaircutCarl · 25/07/2017 13:03

But why is he happy to prioritise his DC so little cal?

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 13:05

Paxman...why?
No one has answered my earlier question.
Why is it ok to be a sahp and carer bit not ok to be a sahp for ones own sanity/healrh/happiness?
Why is being at home only ok when caring for others?
If the wage is not needed, why is it so looked down on to be sahp?

stevie69 · 25/07/2017 13:06

But I wanted to be the one to stay at home.

It was our decision we were both 100% happy with.

No one can tell me that is wrong.

Besides, my OH can't breastfeed.

Wouldn't dream of telling you it's wrong. It's right for YOU: wouldn't be for me.

The world don't move to the beat of just one drum.

S

Cailleach666 · 25/07/2017 13:08

getahaircut- he didn't though.

It was very important to us both that our children were cared for at home when they were young.
We had no family support and we didn't want to use a childminder or nursery.
By him focusing on his career and earning enough for all of us then he supported his children by supporting me to care for them at home.
His children were his top priority.

Cailleach666 · 25/07/2017 13:10

stevie- I haven't criticised any of your life choices.

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 13:13

Dh is a very hands on dad
So was his and so was mine
But his time is limited so we try and make the best of it.. .off to York for 2 days tomorrow:)
No way I could have gone back when ds1
Was a baby...he was very ill and in and out of hospital. At one point we were told he would be deaf and blind.
Then - surprisingly! - ds2 came along when I had just gone back to work 20 hours per week.
There is a 5 year age gap (6 school years) so I'm still needed by ds2 in a way I'm not by ds1.
I now work very pt
Suits us and more importantly ME
Last week I was able to sit in a and e with mum for 10 hours.
I can devote time to things that are important to me...like children's literacy.
Lazy?
Maybe.
Works for us.

GetAHaircutCarl · 25/07/2017 13:13

mrsmartell I don't think there's anything wrong with not working.

If you don't want to work, don't do anything useful (as you see it in your own terms), don't need the money and your partner is cool about the whole thing, then why not?

But the OP isn't in that situation.

Mrsmartell08 · 25/07/2017 13:16

I don't know.
The op seems unsure what she wants tbh.
As I said upthread...perhaps time for a life reassessment?
45 is a pretty good age to do it!

stevie69 · 25/07/2017 13:22

stevie- I haven't criticised any of your life choices.

Cailleach 666, you did say that you found it 'sad that I couldn't envisage a fruitful life outside of the workplace'. Not a criticism, granted but then again I never accused you of having criticised my life choices.

We're different, you and I. Our choices are both amazingly valid. I don't feel sad for you. You seem happy, as am I Smile

S x

Cailleach666 · 25/07/2017 13:26

stevie thanks, but I don't actually need to to validate my life choices.

Cailleach666 · 25/07/2017 13:32

you to validate

Puffpaw · 25/07/2017 13:34

I don't think anyone has said it isn't work. But if (general) you want it to be your sole job, then treat it as such. Don't expect to do half of it while your DH does one and a half jobs. And let's face it, in most cases, it's hardly unpaid. The majority of SAHM (absent financial abuse) spend the "family money" as they see fit, and again there would be outcry on here if a man dared to say his wife couldn't buy what she wanted.

  1. I think it has become pretty clear from this thread that paid work (and indeed any work outside the home) is valued more highly than unpaid.
  2. I don't know what you are talking about re full time roles etc I never mentioned this, massive projecting going on on your part.
  3. Having access to family money is not pay. Unless you think all sahp are essentially prostitute housekeepers?
I do agree that some paid roles e.g. Surgeon are very inflexible and it is very hard to have a family where both parents are in that type of role. Thanks to wage stagnation and high housing costs it is no longer as simple as 'get a nanny' to deal with it. This is compounded by families living far apart and having children later, no grandparents to help, and later no one to look after the grandparents.
stevie69 · 25/07/2017 13:34

stevie thanks, but I don't actually need to to validate my life choices.

It was merely a compliment, that's all: I wasn't suggesting that you needed to validate your lifestyle choices. More the other way round .....it was you who felt sad for me, not the other way round, remember?

S x

stevie69 · 25/07/2017 13:35

Ah, OK. Seen the update. I wasn't validating your lifestyle choices. You do seem very defensive Blush

S x