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Sean's gone. It's sad. Great guy. Going to miss him.Trump continued

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orlantina · 22/07/2017 22:26

New thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2977693-The-thread-where-we-meet-to-discuss-the-unfolding-Trump-administration-catastrophe-but-end-up-discussing-adoptions-from-Russia?msgid=70627530

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cozietoesie · 22/07/2017 22:29

Thanks. Smile

PerkingFaintly · 22/07/2017 22:29

For me he'll always be just... phenomenal.

Thanks for new thread, orlantina.Wine

cozietoesie · 22/07/2017 22:30

I might buy a bottle of Ribera though. Wink

cozietoesie · 22/07/2017 22:31

Sorry. Ribena.

PerkingFaintly · 22/07/2017 22:38

Here's that Seth Abramson piece linked on the last thread: mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/888803428163620866

Seth Abramson @ SethAbramson

(THREAD) In easily missed BREAKING NEWS yesterday, CBS reported that Marc Kasowitz is "out" as Trump's attorney. It matters, and here's why.

(1) Kasowitz being out as Trump's lawyer comes on the heels of Trump's top legal spokesman, Mark Corallo, resigning.

(2) Corallo resigned because he feared he was being lied to, he couldn't stand the in-fighting and he opposed the new anti-Mueller strategy.

(3) Kasowitz leaving underscores one of those complaints: there are clearly factions in Trump's legal team, and it's making it ineffective.

(4) Broadly speaking, those resigning or pulling back from the team are PR-expert attorneys, and the people staying on are criminal lawyers.

(5) This suggests that some of the in-fighting may have to do with the question of whether this is a "PR situation" or a criminal defense.

(6) The criminal attorneys on the team are winning because they're right—this is a criminal investigation and Trump is a criminal suspect.

(7) Corallo's third complaint, about Mueller, speaks for itself: he believes—and is right—that it's a losing strategy and an unethical one.

(8) But I want to focus here on Corallo's claim he was being "lied to." He didn't mean by Trump—that would breach attorney-client privilege.

(9) So Corallo was telling media that he was either being lied to by the rest of the legal team or by non-client witnesses close to Trump.

(10) Thing is—and I say this as a longtime criminal attorney—you never quit a case because the witnesses are lying. Why? Well—they often do.

(11) Any attorney would read Corallo's extraordinary statement—therefore—as a claim that other members of the legal team are lying to him.

(12) Of the Trump attorneys veteran enough to have info they might withhold from Corallo or mislead him about, Kasowitz is a prime suspect.

(13) This suggests the possibility Kasowitz is not "out" because of a lack of criminal litigation experience or his recent bizarre behavior.

(14) Incidentally, the recent bizarre behavior I refer to are allegations that Kasowitz threatened a man over email.

(15) But no—much more likely is that Kasowitz's exit has to do with information about @ PreetBharara that he accidentally dropped publicly.

(16) Recall that @ PreetBharara had been personally assured by the President that he wouldn't be fired. Then Trump suddenly changed his mind.

(17) What Kasowitz has done is make the extraordinary boast that he was the one who changed the President's mind about firing @ PreetBharara.

(18) You can read about this breach of attorney-client privilege and possible—by Trump—Obstruction of Justice here:
Trump’s Personal Lawyer Boasted That He Got Preet Bharara Fired
propublica.org

(19) Keep in mind presidents never—ever—fire all U.S. attorneys at once and without warning because it dramatically destabilizes government.

(20) Nor is there any indication that Mr. Trump planned to do this prior to Kasowitz telling him that @ PreetBharara was "going to get him."

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 22/07/2017 22:43
TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/07/2017 22:45

Placemarking Grin

Sean's gone. It's sad. Great guy. Going to miss him.Trump continued
TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/07/2017 22:48

Ooh! Cross post with M0stly on old thread Smile

MrsT2007 · 22/07/2017 22:49

Hello and thanks for new thread.

Stockpiling popcorn for coming weeks.....

M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 22/07/2017 22:50

Peering in through the windows at the press corps from somewhere in the bushes.

cozietoesie · 22/07/2017 23:14

Kasowitz was probably a big comfort blanket as well - probably got to call him D.J. and all! Wink

lionheart · 22/07/2017 23:39

Thanks for the new thread and brand new title.

Onwards.

saffronwblue · 22/07/2017 23:40

Did not imagine Ribena as the drink of choice to get us through the dark times we live in.
You're all in great shape. Beautiful.
Loved the Randy Rainbow and the Habermann interview.

BoreOfWhabylon · 22/07/2017 23:55

Is this the right thread for a free pardon?
Not that I need one. Oh no. Asking for a friend.

AcrossthePond55 · 23/07/2017 00:07

I've locked out the old thread.....with a pun.

Ribena for all!!!!!!

(Add your own favourite tipple)

cozietoesie · 23/07/2017 00:17

Nope. Afraid I didn't quite get it, Across. Let it mature in my brain - maybe it will hit me in the middle of something. Wink

FantasticButtocks · 23/07/2017 00:20

WineThanks for new thread!

cozietoesie · 23/07/2017 00:23

Median drug smuggling - best read the whole Beast piece. Smile

Mexican drug smugglers

TheClaws · 23/07/2017 00:24

Thanks for the new thread, Orlantina. I'll miss Spicey. He had a naive, it's-not-my-fault-so-shut-up-would-you way about him that I liked. He was stuck in one of the worst jobs in the world, poor bloke. Scaramucci, though: he's jumped in fully knowing the landscape. He's a chameleon who'll say whatever, whenever.

Anyway, I've been saving this for a new thread:

Sean's gone. It's sad. Great guy. Going to miss him.Trump continued
TheClaws · 23/07/2017 00:29

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 28m28 minutes ago
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American steel & American hands have constructed a 100,000 ton message to the world: American MIGHT IS SECOND TO NONE!
#USSGeraldRFord #USA

Sean's gone. It's sad. Great guy. Going to miss him.Trump continued
TheClaws · 23/07/2017 00:31

As a non-American, I take exception to his 100,000 ton message.

cozietoesie · 23/07/2017 00:33

Was Mike Pence there? Grin

Roussette · 23/07/2017 00:40

Thanks for new thread orlantina.

DH and I have been relivin SOAP moments had just forgotten this. We met in its heyday. Funny times. I was thinking to myself, what is this guy ON, he's weird liking this american rubbish. 35 years later..... sorry will sign off now have been drinking Wine

AcrossthePond55 · 23/07/2017 00:43

I would say, Claws!

Almost sounds threatening, doesn't it? "Beware our steel". And I'm sure there are plenty of just as well-built military ships built round the world, anyway!

But don't worry, it's just Trump's version of "'Murica, Fuck Yeah!!!".

WestleyAndButtockUp · 23/07/2017 02:03

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