Council house

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My situation currently is me, my partner and three children living with my mom in a 3 bed house, it is very cramped, and I feel awful for taking over my moms house.. I've been on the council housing list for a long time and unfortunately we just don't earn enough to private rent.. Basically my question is, two houses down a family have just moved out and I was wondering whether if/how I could go about asking the council if we could have it before they put it up for bidding? I'm not sure if this is a possible thing or if they will just tell me to get lost basically? Any advice or same situations would be appreciated?

sevensistersyou sound bitter and jealous and like you have a chip on your shoulder.

OP you don't need to justify yourself on here, bloody hell I'm sure there are loads of us who could be judged for things we have done. You didn't know the system for council housing, it doesn't mean you have to apologise for having your kids!

Bitter and jealous of what, exactly? Someone having to live with their mum whose partner doesn't even earn enough to pay rent? Yes, I'm so jealous of that!

They are affecting you - take your bike elsewheee

Wow the bitterness and nastiness on this thread is astonishing

Well if you're not bitter and jealous why all the vitriol then? She is a stranger on the internet yet you're spluttering with rage! And why are you entitled to social housing but she isn't? Not all people who are disabled live in social housing so do you realise that people could judge you for the same thing?

Mom?

*too ffs!

Seven you have no idea about their situation. When me and DP first got together we were earning less than a thousand pound a month combined and we both worked forty hours a week.

It's not just £700 rent, it's council tax, food, water, electric etc. If he's under 25 and on minimum wage that's not easy.

If she gets a job, who looks after the children? Childcare costs for three children would be extortionate.

Of course all these things should have been considered previously but they weren't and the OP has admitted that was stupid. What good is hurling abuse at her going to achieve?

I'm hardly spluttering with rage, just having a discussion. It's not vitriol, it's common sense that if you can't afford to house three children, you don't deliberately have three children. Surely.

And what, exactly, is there to be jealous of in this situation? What? Please do tell me. It's hardly something to aspire to, is it?

""Leaving aside the fact that that's ridiculously cheap and anyone should be able to afford that, why isn't her partner earning enough to pay for something so cheap""

Places with lower housing costs also have lower wages.

A three bed in my area ranges from £400-£520 (most affordable), but people can't pay it without HB help.

OP you might like to have a look here: www.entitledto.co.uk/benefits-calculator/startcalc.aspx

You can use the calculator to find out if there are any benefits or tax credits you might qualify for, it should also be able to estimate how much Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit you might be able to claim.

That's a completely different situation. They brought three kids into the world knowing they couldn't house them. Deliberately.

Not really. Your points are a bit after the fact really aren't they? Whether the OP should have had them or not is besides the point. They're here now. It's a bit like the woman who randomly told me "there's pills for that nowadays". When discovering I was a single parent. I was with their dad for years. Married to him. Then we split when DS was 18months. What was I meant to do with the children? Hand them back?

You're being deeply unpleasant (and that's coming from me who's been called worse on here!) for the sake of it and it's rather unseemly.

Fantastic, if they're under 25 and already have three kids they can't house then I have even less sympathy for them.

How about getting a job?

Her partner has one.

Seven why?

There needs to be a big revamp of the social/council housing situation.

On an individual level then yes every family has the right to a house, not the kids fault the parents are in this situation etc etc
But on national level we just do not have the resources to house every family that needs it into lifelong tenancies (while people who private rent do not have the same luxury despite working and paying their own full price market rent) whilst simultaneously selling these houses to people for much less than market cost and therefore being unable to replace theses properties like for like.

Unless the government is willing to buy a shitload more properties then the reality is that people should only be housed in social housing while they get on thier feet and increase thier earning etc. Once they get to a certain level of income then they should either have to give up the house to the more needy or have the option to buy it at FULL market value.

Some horrible things said about children on this thread. 'Saying it how it is' is the battle cry of the bully. Self righteousness is a very ugly thing.

An inspector calls should be compulsory reading before posting on this board.

Honestly I actually do know a woman who did this. Her friend moved out, and she moved in before her friend filled in the paperwork, returned keys, etc. It was presented as a fait accompli. She was essentially a squatter but she had a newborn and the council just let her stay. I'm guessing she was an exception though.

It's not abhorrent, it's the truth. She should have controlled herself, she couldn't afford those children or house them. Those poor kids have been brought into a terrible situation because of the mother's irresponsibility.

Wow, her alone? All these women out there having multiple immaculate conceptions and our main religion worships a woman who did it just the once, so odd...

But he doesn't have a job that pays sufficiently to house them. So either he needs to earn more, or she needs to get a job too to make up the shortfall. This is just simple economics, or common sense.

How do you know that? Are you privy to the DPs wages and finances? I must have missed where the OP listed it all...

You are spluttering with rage, you sound judgemental and spiteful. You don't know this woman yet you have made vile comments about her children and that's not on. Who are you to say whether she should have had them or not?She asked if she should apply for a council house, I don't think she deserves to be ripped to pieces by you.

How do you know that? Are you privy to the DPs wages and finances? I must have missed where the OP listed it all...

Yes, you did. She stated that they didn't earn enough to private rent, and that a £700 rent bill for a 3 bedroomed house in their area was too expensive. She also stated that her partner didn't earn enough for anyone to "give them a house".

So, if she's not working, you can extrapolate from that that he doesn't earn enough to pay the rent or pass the checks for a private rental, so either he needs to get a better job and/or work more hours if he doesn't already, or she needs to work to make up the difference.

If it's quite cheap why aren't you in private rented accommodation seven? After all if you work and support yourself surely you can afford it too right?...

Obviously that'd be a cuntish thing for me to say to you but it's okay to say to a woman with kids no?