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Council house

212 replies

Snoreborewhoreee · 17/07/2017 09:24

My situation currently is me, my partner and three children living with my mom in a 3 bed house, it is very cramped, and I feel awful for taking over my moms house.. I've been on the council housing list for a long time and unfortunately we just don't earn enough to private rent.. Basically my question is, two houses down a family have just moved out and I was wondering whether if/how I could go about asking the council if we could have it before they put it up for bidding? I'm not sure if this is a possible thing or if they will just tell me to get lost basically? Any advice or same situations would be appreciated?

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Snoreborewhoreee · 17/07/2017 11:29

I was very naive and hindsight is a wonderful thing, I wish I was perfect but unfortunately I am not, I realise I have made some big mistakes which I beat myself up about every single day and as someone said I now living with the consequences, I am extremely grateful to my mom and for the roof over my head, I try and help out with whatever I can and I am now trying to make my mistakes right.. Private renting isn't an option as even if I could save for the deposit, my partners wage requires a guarantor before anyone will give us a house, the rent for a three bedroom house in my area is £700 + which we just can't afford and the council say they can't tell us how much housing benefit we would get until we are in a house!
So I am well aware of how badly I messed up and I'm just trying to make it right

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crazycatgal · 17/07/2017 11:35

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GreenTulips · 17/07/2017 11:40

Nothing like kicking someone when they're down! Is there?

Would you say that to a disabled person who had jumped from a plane? Well it's your own fault??

No - so OP you are where you are - plenty of marriages fail - parents die

Kids are a blessing however they are brought into this world and everyone is equally worthy of being here -

finding a job that pays to allow childcare is very difficult - and something else the government should be doing - they want woman to work but the cost of care out weights that option

sevensisters7242 · 17/07/2017 11:47

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Birdsgottaf1y · 17/07/2017 11:54

""You can't jump the queue just because the location of the house is convenient for you, sorry but it's true""

In my area a lot of points are added if you have a local connection.

OP, you can do an online entitlement to benefits, including HB and CTC.

benefits-calculator.turn2us.org.uk/

www.entitledto.co.uk/

HidingUnderARock · 17/07/2017 11:55

Although you would have to be in the property and apply to get an exact Housing Benefit figure there are many calculators online where you can get an approximate figure.
The CAB www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/benefits-introduction/what-benefits-can-i-get/ suggest the Turn2us calculator and the Entitledto calculator. Be careful as some sites may be selling something or harvesting your data.

Birdsgottaf1y · 17/07/2017 12:00

""Surely if the wait is 2 years most people will be able to save a deposit for a proper house/flat before that?""

I don't know what you mean by 'proper house', Social housing is proper houses/flats.

Moving into a private rental can cost around £1500-£2k, that's £20 a week, so not that affordable. The bar to private rents is the guarantor they ask for.

The private rents at the lower end aren't in any better areas, or condition than Social housing.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 17/07/2017 12:03

OP is your DP working full time?

Fantastictwistsand · 17/07/2017 12:07

Seven sisters it is completely abhorrent to refer to someone's children as a liability. The OP has admitted she made a mistake, the children deserve adequate housing regardless of their parents situation and choices.

GreenTulips · 17/07/2017 12:09

Kids aren't a blessing when they're brought into the world under these circumstances; they're a liability for everyone

Nice

Do you think the same about the elderly or disabled (other than yourself obviously?)

AwaywiththePixies27 · 17/07/2017 12:10

To the pp suggesting that the OPs mum write and say that they're no longer welcome there. Rules are very different now.

A friend of mine was left homeless when the tenancy ended. (PR). They've (her & her children) have been in temporary accommodation six months.

sevensisters7242 · 17/07/2017 12:13

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VeryButchyRestingFace · 17/07/2017 12:17

Kids aren't a blessing when they're brought into the world under these circumstances; they're a liability for everyone

Oh Christ, you again. 🤢

Away and flush yourself to Kingdom Come.

GreenTulips · 17/07/2017 12:17

Take it you work full time and pay your own way then?

Fantastictwistsand · 17/07/2017 12:19

Seven no vitriol aimed at the father then?

Do you not realise that children are vital for our society? One of those 'liabilities' could be a future doctor, engineer or maybe even a politician doing something about the housing crisis!

ComputerUserNotTrained · 17/07/2017 12:20

Those poor kids have been brought into a terrible situation because of the mother's irresponsibility.

I don't think living in a three bed house with your mum, your dad and your grandma is a "terrible situation" - it seems pretty good to me actually Confused

sevensisters7242 · 17/07/2017 12:22

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GreenTulips · 17/07/2017 12:23

God help poor countries with no contraception

sevensisters7242 · 17/07/2017 12:24

Additionally, the OP says that private rent on a 3 bedroomed house in their area is £700 a month. Leaving aside the fact that that's ridiculously cheap and anyone should be able to afford that, why isn't her partner earning enough to pay for something so cheap? Does he not work full time? In which case, he needs to step up to the plate.

sevensisters7242 · 17/07/2017 12:25

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AwaywiththePixies27 · 17/07/2017 12:25

Here we go again. The woman gets all the shit for being irresponsible because it was obvious yet another immaculate conception Hmm

Darn things!

AwaywiththePixies27 · 17/07/2017 12:27

We're not a poor country with no contraception and if they couldn't afford to house three kids they should have used some

Would you say that to a Widow?

sevensisters7242 · 17/07/2017 12:28

That's a completely different situation. They brought three kids into the world knowing they couldn't house them. Deliberately.

GreenTulips · 17/07/2017 12:32

You didn't answer my questions

I assume you're perfect and paid for all your care and housing costs then?

RortyCrankle · 17/07/2017 12:35

I agree with sevensisters No-one needs to be perfect but it's hardly rocket science that if you can't support or provide for three children, then don't have them until you can.

I don't think you have a hope of jumping the queue to get the house you're after, quite rightly so as there are probably others in front of you on the list.

How about getting a job?