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Charlie Gard 6

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CaveMum · 13/07/2017 10:10

New thread so that we can await this morning's hearing.

Let's try to keep this one as sensible and measured as the past 5 threads have been.

Fingers crossed that this can all be resolved today and that Charlie and his parents can find peace.

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Sirzy · 13/07/2017 15:39

The CA people won't like the idea of the hospital being called excellent!

cjt110 · 13/07/2017 15:39

The witness is asked if he has new evidence to support his belief that the treatment will cross the blood brain barrier.

cjt110 · 13/07/2017 15:39

flatbreads He seems very respectful of GOSH and the Drs treating Charlie.

LapinR0se · 13/07/2017 15:40

Gollop QC to expert: is there new evidence? Answer: Yes, but I had not considered the new data when I wrote to Court of Appeal in May.

cjt110 · 13/07/2017 15:40

Gollop QC to expert: is there new evidence? Answer: Yes, but I had not considered the new data when I wrote to Court of Appeal in May.

ShatnersWig · 13/07/2017 15:41

Sirzy No, they don't like that. Funny, they all said he was a fantastic witness up til then. Someone else even thinks GOSH "got to the witness"

Seriously, if you wrote this as a piece of satire people would say it was too unbelievable.

flatbreads · 13/07/2017 15:41

cjt huge relief there if he is so.

Mummymummyme · 13/07/2017 15:41

This is becoming incredibly uncomfortable now. It seems this 'expert witness' is simply someone who has fed half truths to distraught and desperate parents in hope of an actual subject to test treatment out on.

HouseOfMouse · 13/07/2017 15:41

He's hopeless. Didn't consider the "new" evidence when he wrote to the Court of Appeal?

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GabsAlot · 13/07/2017 15:43

why didnt he considr it

coz it wasnt beneficial enough to him then?

Ceto · 13/07/2017 15:43

FGS, this witness says he has not seen Charlie's medical records, only summaries. Is it ethical to give evidence on something as important as this with only part of the data?

LapinR0se · 13/07/2017 15:43

Gollop: Charlie would be the first experiment? Expert: yes.

flatbreads · 13/07/2017 15:44

Oh please stop it straighttalker

jellypi3 · 13/07/2017 15:45

Is there a second Expert Witness for the Gard's or am I dreaming that?

pasanda · 13/07/2017 15:45

The audio feed quality from the U.S. has been garbled, glitchy. But when doc was giving stats, it was crystal clear - chills."

How the hell do they know that??

GabsAlot · 13/07/2017 15:46

how can you experimnt on a child its sick

LapinR0se · 13/07/2017 15:46

NY expert still being cross-examined by Gollop QC for GOSH. He says Charlie is in terminal stage of his life — ever since put on ventilator.

Writerwannabe83 · 13/07/2017 15:46

All this talk of Charlie being used a guinea pig is frightening. The thought of him lying in a hospital bed a d doctors being able to do whatever they like to him just because he can't say no or because he physically can't show any signs of distress is abhorrent. It's absolutely petrifying to think a human being, even worse a little baby who can't speak for itself, could be used in such a way Sad

I really, really hope he is allowed to pass away peacefully.

I just saw a snippet on the news and it had video footage of Charlie and it was haunting.....there was just nothing behind his eyes and it seems so wrong to allow him to live like that Sad

PyongyangKipperbang · 13/07/2017 15:47

Gollop: Charlie would be the first experiment? Expert: yes.

At least he is being honest about using Charlie as a guinea pig :(

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/07/2017 15:47

Expert asked by Gollop QC why he didn’t ask to see judgment by the court delivered after he last gave evidence to Mr Justice Francis

So he IS the original US doctor.

Allhallowseve · 13/07/2017 15:48

I'm all of a sudden finding this incredibly emotional .
I wish that there was some evidence from somewhere that beloved Charlie could be saved and have a meaningful life I really do.
I hope for the best possible outcome today . I'm so sad for his poor parents who are clearly just clutching at straws . But mostly for poor Charlie who is lay on that hospital bed while this goes on around him . TBH I really feel like it is none of my business and wish for his sake it wasn't being played out like this .

Albadross · 13/07/2017 15:48

I'm shocked that anyone at that level in a specialism would seemingly show up without having read the previous ruling and without having seen full medical records.

Sirzy · 13/07/2017 15:49

I was thinking before I would respect the judge no matter what. But when the "expert" is basically admitting that he is going to be a Guinea Pig then (unless something more more compelling) comes forward I think I would find it hard to respect a decision to place him in this mans care.

GabsAlot · 13/07/2017 15:49

rplis to him bing expriment

29 seconds ago

Well yeah it does because if its not charlie it will be some child out of the stop light we dont know about.