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CaveMum · 13/07/2017 10:10

New thread so that we can await this morning's hearing.

Let's try to keep this one as sensible and measured as the past 5 threads have been.

Fingers crossed that this can all be resolved today and that Charlie and his parents can find peace.

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alltouchedout · 13/07/2017 14:03

Flowers for you and your son, Maybeoneday77

TheFairyCaravan · 13/07/2017 14:04

Maybeoneday Flowers. I'm sorry for your loss

LapinR0se · 13/07/2017 14:04

Charlie Gard: now back in court. Staff trying to establish three-way video link. Meanwhile, I have position statements filed by parties.

muckypup73 · 13/07/2017 14:05

Charlie Gard: now back in court. Staff trying to establish three-way video link. Meanwhile, I have position statements filed by parties.

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 13/07/2017 14:06

Plus you said the solicitor didn't have a "direct function" in court and was there to "back up" counsel.

I was pointing out that that was incorrect. They're there to instruct counsel and are,instrumental to the hearing

LapinR0se · 13/07/2017 14:07

GOSH position statement for today’s court hearing: Charlie “is on a low dose of oral morphine”…

muckypup73 · 13/07/2017 14:07

straighttalker , I personally do not blame you for feeling that way.

cjt110 · 13/07/2017 14:07

GOSH position statement for today’s court hearing: Charlie “is on a low dose of oral morphine”… Anyone who is medical, can you please explain if Charlie is not able to swallow, how would this be administered?

Edsheeranalbumparty · 13/07/2017 14:08

My son died a few years ago from mitochondrial disease. We chose not to ventilate him having seen how he suffered. Trust me, Charlie is suffering and feels pain but can no longer react to the pain. The seizures he experiences will be painful.

I'm so sorry. You did the right thing for your son. The thought that Charlie might be in pain is unbearable, I don't know I have always 'hoped' (wrong word but you know what I mean) that perhaps he is just in discomfort and maybe feeling frustration or something?

He has a minute change of recovering by a minute amount. When you balance that against the life he currently has then surely it's such an easy decision, how can people not see that? I don't mean Chris and Connie, I think they have literally been driven mad with their grief, but objectively it's so obvious what the right thing to do here is.

muckypup73 · 13/07/2017 14:08

Not amedic but through a drip

Ceto · 13/07/2017 14:08

On Daily Mail comments:

"A Judge does now work closely with children every day but a teacher does. A teacher of small children should be put in charge of this case, not a Judge who does not work with small children."

Seriously, how do these people manage to function in society? It makes me seriously concerned about our education system if it churns out people so lacking in even basic knowledge and logic.

GabsAlot · 13/07/2017 14:08

accusing of drugging him again by suportrs

LapinR0se · 13/07/2017 14:08

GOSH position statement: “Before that was started quite recently, all of those caring for him at GOSH hoped very much that Charlie ….

ShatnersWig · 13/07/2017 14:08

cjt Oddly enough, same question posed immediately by the CA. And probably fair, for us laymen.

Brittbugs80 · 13/07/2017 14:08

”… Anyone who is medical, can you please explain if Charlie is not able to swallow, how would this be administered

My nephew can't swallow, his meds go through a line fitted in his tummy

cjt110 · 13/07/2017 14:09

muckypup73 Thats what I would have thought but it says it's oral?

LapinR0se · 13/07/2017 14:09

GOSH position statement: “…did not experience pain. They did so in the knowledge that if he did not….

pasanda · 13/07/2017 14:09

The thing that bothers me is so what if he can open his eyes? He no doubt can't actually see anything with those eyes at all.

It's like being able to open yours eyes (but donothing else) gives you a great quality of life, one to fight for.

Who would want to live like that? Or have someone they love live like that? It's just bizarre to me.

Igottastartthinkingbee · 13/07/2017 14:09

NG tube fed presumably? I could be completely wrong on that mind, just going on my own experience of having a premature baby in NICU.

meddie · 13/07/2017 14:09

It would be given by his feeding tube cjt110.

muckypup73 · 13/07/2017 14:10

Probably just a figure of speech

cjt110 · 13/07/2017 14:10

Brittbugs80 Thank you. I couldnt fathom how if he was unable to swallow it might be administered.

Shatners I am embarrassed to be tarred in the same group....

straighttalker · 13/07/2017 14:10

A low dose of oral morphine can be given orally (to individuals who can swallow). In Charlie's case it is given via a nasogastric tube directly into the stomach (because he can't swallow and is ventilated).

LapinR0se · 13/07/2017 14:10

GOSH position statement: “…it was because he had no experience at all because he was beyond experience”.

Ceto · 13/07/2017 14:10

The solicitors are acting pro bono. You might take a trainee or NQ to scribe but it's highly unlikely there will be two senior associates/partners there to instruct counsel

Where precisely did I say that was likely, Gobbolino?