The thread where we meet to discuss the unfolding Trump administration catastrophe, but end up discussing adoptions from Russia

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If we can get our hands free to type from the constant facepalming, we should be able to post on this topic.

Continuation of the previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2968382-The-one-where-Trump-just-cant-stop-being-Trump

Quite a number of places marked as [garbled] on the transcript.

www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/us/politics/trump-interview-transcript.html

Sessions must be fuming, especially after the performance he put on at the hearing.

Jesus Christ on a bycicle, he's now throwing his own administration under the bus and openly threatening to obstruct an ongoing investigation ...

Surely at some point even Republicans must realise that he poses as much of a risk to them as to anyone? See also: Sessions, J.

AFAIK Hillary wasn't in office at any time during Bill's Presidency.
Although, IIRC, they tried but were shut down. Something to do with nepotism or something...

what a garbled interview

what a garbled interview

Did you expect better?
Based on what?

I haven't been following 45 for a little while- I can cope with reading about Trump or Brexit but not both.
Can anyone kindly summarise the last couple of weeks? I totally understand if it's too painful.

Actually, Lweji. One generally does hope for better. Every time. And yet every time it's at least as bad.

Many months ago, I thought to myself over something 'Well the bar can't get lower than this.'

Oh naive and simple person that I was. It could - and indeed has!

I know what you mean, MsHoolies.

In brief, 45 has been to the G20 in Germany and met with Putin twice - one meeting scheduled for 30 mins but ran to nearly two and a half hours. US govt (I think State Dept or security) tried to make sure there were "grownups in the room", but in the end they weren't there.

One unscheduled meeting at a banquet where 45 moved to sit next to Putin and talked for nearly an hour, in sight but not earshot of other leaders.

And Don Jr's emails have come out, in which he enthusiastically agreed to a meeting with a bunch of Russians during the election campaign, because he was told they had info against Hillary as "part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump".

Yes, that last bit really is a direct quote. Full email texts here: www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/donald-trump-jr-emails-full-text-russia-rob-goldstone

Trump teams' line of retreat for the email story, which broke bit by bit, is that Don Jr's meeting was about adoption of Russian babies by US citizens. Interestingly, 45 has now claimed discussion with Putin at banquet was about adoption.

(There may be some truth to that - the adoption issue is tied to US sanctions against Russia and Russians. So it's a good euphemism.)

Please do correct me, folks, if I've got any of that wrong.

Lordy, Perking. I'm just rolling with the punches here.

Mr Colbert from last night.

In fact, MreHoolies, you could do worse than have yourself a little Colbert-fest at your leisure.

Thanks Perking so business as usual then?

For the Trump dynasty, yep.

But I think not for supporters, who're having to crank up their own levels of denial and collusion - or drop out.

The next month might be ........interesting, though. You timed your break well.

For your interest.

Playing with fire?

I have to ask, am I the only one who looks at Trump Jr and sees this?

He must have been a Spiv/carpet-bagger in a previous life

I tend to see Jabba the Hut.

All I can see is the hair gel.

Yea, Sally.

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POTUS attack on Russia recusal reveals yet again his violation of the essential independence of DOJ, a bedrock principle of our democracy.

I see Jabba too.

When I look at Don Jr all I can see is his Brylcreem'd slicked-back hair. With all his money you'd think he could afford a decent hair stylist. I know that's akin to focusing on a woman's hair style which is wrong, but when you are in a prominent position the way you look is supposed to be a reflection of your competency. And his hair screams 1980s Gordon Gecko "Greed is Good". It does NOT inspire confidence.

Jabba=Scrotus as far as looks go. But I'm still giggling over Chin-Frog.

When I see Don Jr. and he's being interviewed, I can't get over how many of his mannerisms are like his Dads. And I also can't move on from the big game hunting photos of him and his horrible brother.

To summarise:

lawfareblog.com/president-vs-federal-law-enforcement-trump-attacks-everyone

Oh yes it's the Brylcream hair that makes me think he looks like a Spiv!