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The thread where we meet to discuss the unfolding Trump administration catastrophe, but end up discussing adoptions from Russia

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 12/07/2017 12:56

If we can get our hands free to type from the constant facepalming, we should be able to post on this topic.

Continuation of the previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2968382-The-one-where-Trump-just-cant-stop-being-Trump

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TheClaws · 19/07/2017 00:45

Scott Dworkin‏Verified account @funder 5m5 minutes ago
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All Putin needs is a recording of Trump saying something he shouldn't & he could use to blackmail Trump forever. #TrumpRussia #Resist

TheClaws · 19/07/2017 00:53

Kursk - I'm sure it does, but I wonder in the current political climate if it was appropriate for Trump to approach Putin (as the report says) and then conduct a conversation that wasn't being recorded (at least on the US side)? He's shown he can't really stick to script, isn't a diplomat and has a quick temper. To Putin, that would seem a gift.

Kursk · 19/07/2017 01:24

Bet it was recorded by some agency! True it doesn't look that good

TheClaws · 19/07/2017 02:14

He doesn't like it and is throwing a tweet tantrum. Note he only mentions the dinner, not the separate conversation/meeting they had.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 9m9 minutes ago
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The Fake News is becoming more and more dishonest! Even a dinner arranged for top 20 leaders in Germany is made to look sinister!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 16m16 minutes ago
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Fake News story of secret dinner with Putin is "sick." All G 20 leaders, and spouses, were invited by the Chancellor of Germany. Press knew!

AcrossthePond55 · 19/07/2017 02:29

Claws Those last two tweets are the equivalent of "Look! A BIG fish!!!!".

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/07/2017 06:05

Seth Abramson @SethAbramson
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When POTUS violates protocol via a long meeting with an enemy with no U.S. witness, read-out or press disclosure—yes, it's a secret meeting.

(2) The idea Trump held this hour-long meeting in a room with foreigners and therefore assumed they'd leak it—so it wasn't secret—is insane.

(3) If one witness hadn't leaked to a reporter—Ian Bremmer—we wouldn't have ever found out about this. Which is what Trump had hoped for.

(4) Any meeting a U.S. leader tries to hide from the U.S. public is an attempted "secret" meeting—I don't care a whit if G20 leaders knew.

(5) It's amazing how easily Trump put the press on its heels. He used the word "secret"—forcing (?) the press to say, "No, er, undisclosed!"

So, readers, you tell me: a meeting that remains permanently undisclosed to the U.S. public (what Trump hoped) is a ___ meeting.

In America—this country—when you meet with an enemy's leader, you (a) have a U.S. witness, (b) create a read-out, and (c) alert the press.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/07/2017 06:41

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Jon Huntsman called to see me. I said no, he gave away our country to China! @JonHuntsman
12:33 am · 9 Feb 2012

John Aravosis
John Aravosis @aravosis
Which explains why you chose him to be ambassador to Russia. Who else to help you give away our country to Putin.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/07/2017 07:13

Ben Jacobs @Bencjacobs
White House issues statement on second meeting with Putin

The thread where we meet to discuss the unfolding Trump administration catastrophe, but end up discussing adoptions from Russia
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/07/2017 07:19

Rep. Barbara Lee @RepBarbaraLee
Ryan stripped my 01 AUMF repeal amdt from DOD Approps in the dead of night. This is underhanded & undemocratic. The people deserve a debate!

orlantina · 19/07/2017 08:03

So was this an hour meeting or a little chat after dinner in public?

Lweji · 19/07/2017 08:57

Both, it seems.

Roussette · 19/07/2017 09:03

Abby D. Phillip‏Verified account @abbydphillip 10h10 hours ago
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Abby D. Phillip Retweeted Annie Karni
I was pooler that night. Putin's motorcade left the dinner at 11:50 pm. Trump's at 11:54 pm. They were among the last two leaders to depart.

Lweji · 19/07/2017 10:02

Bring pedantic, they were either the last leaders to depart or among the last leaders.
Among the last two leaders is just not right. Grin

MicrowaveSpy · 19/07/2017 10:06

Morning all Brew
Slightly off topic but MN usernames fascinate me. When I see cozie it reminds me of bundling up DC in the winter. Mine came courtesy of KAC and Kursk is a Russian town. Fascinating Wink

BiglyBadgers · 19/07/2017 10:23

Gosh! Fancy that microwave.

MicrowaveSpy · 19/07/2017 10:40

I know Bigly, I know Grin

Roussette · 19/07/2017 11:22

Microwave. Mine is a type of wine Wine apparently. Never touch the stuff of course Grin

BiglyBadgers · 19/07/2017 11:38

I just like bigly badgers and I cannot lie. Grin

Kursk · 19/07/2017 11:40

MicrowaveSpy

Whenever it's time for a name change I spin the map on Google Earth!

MicrowaveSpy · 19/07/2017 11:49

Sure Grin

MicrowaveSpy · 19/07/2017 11:55

Bigly I now have an ear worm

Listening to Morning Joe. Mika has just said 'Trump exposes himself' team that with the ear worm Shock[vom]Grin

TheClaws · 19/07/2017 12:00

I love cats and grammar Grin

That tweet from Annie Karni re:the Putin/Trump motorcades leaving so close together, and among the last to leave - hmm.

Natsku · 19/07/2017 13:11

Mine is boringly unmeaningful, just the nickname of my name and I use it practically everywhere - absolutely terrible for my Internet privacy but suits my Internet laziness.

cozietoesie · 19/07/2017 13:54

Above the going rate, apparently.

US Miltary hires office space in Trump Tower

lionheart · 19/07/2017 14:05

There is something wrong with this chap:

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 18m18 minutes ago
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The Republicans never discuss how good their healthcare bill is, & it will get even better at lunchtime.The Dems scream death as OCare dies!